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RE: The Afterthought - Crashlander04 - 09-09-2012

You obviously didn't read my post then. Nobody could just jump you on the side where PvP is enabled - RP would still be required.


RE: The Afterthought - spenboy - 09-09-2012

i know, but i still would be killed, delaying my deatgh 20 seconds for rp isn't that great for me.


RE: The Afterthought - asdfasdflkjty911 - 09-09-2012

Spenboy, you do realize that one AND three would either require you to pvp or text fight, so whats the issue with having both? Infact, why are you playing on this server if you dislike either, go join a creative server or something.

No but seriously, option 2 is by far the best.

Not only does it solve both our issues, it keeps the community still together on one map, and it creates a by far much more unique, interesting, dynamic, and (if executed well, which I know we can) fun environment for RP. The way it was being talked about made it sound like the savages were for pvp, low rp players, no, both sides should appeal to the same strict RP guidelines, only difference being pvp)

I don't think there should be stealing regulations however, that part doesnt necessarily make much sense, we have locks for a reason.


RE: The Afterthought - theonedoctor - 09-09-2012

(09-09-2012, 04:38)asdfasdflkjty911 Wrote: I think option 2 is the best.

Why?
Because Kiwike is suppost to be unique, it is, but this could fix our current issue, and raise its uniqueness.

How many servers have you been on that have a giant wall dividing it? Not only does it add a lot of cool RP (for both sides), it would make an environment were either side could still coexist. Meaning, say someone who one day decided they were sick of living in the savage forest on one side of the wall, they could then go to the top and live there, without hate from the civilized side.

The savage side could also have a higher percentage of ore. Making a real reason it is unstable and savage down there, everyone is fighting to gain the most resources. There could also be a spire/dungeon/fortress in the very middle of this area, it could be designed so that anybody could go inside and claim it, and then use it for what ever reason they wish. (perphaps a flag system could be devised, one faction could tell an admin their color is red, and then in the walls near the front gate of said dungeon/castle/fort, there could be a way, with pistons, to open of slits with said color on it. A faction could go into it, capture it, and flip a switch that says they own it, or shows their color). This would add a more RP reason for the savageness in said area as well. This castle could have the background of being some ancient dwarf castle that was overrun and changed by say humans, they were overrun and the castle was changed slightly by say a groupe of rouge elves, ext. Now its just a secure and strategic outpost that anyone can try to claim. Inside and around it could be pre-made (mideval) looking mines that would be efficient to mine in (lit up well and lots of large hallways to branch off of).

The civilized side could have a large city at the front gate, then two medium-large cities on two other gates along the wall. The civilized side could also close or open these gates. Maybe some maze system, or system of traps on the savage side, at the end being either a passageway to the top (that couldnt be blocked by someone on that side) or a switch to open the gate. This passageway would be very deadly, with lava (so even diamond armor wont help you if you fall into it, it'd be a big gamble to make, and would be very, very difficult).

The civilized side could also have a few other large builds people could do early on (to create more lore for the map) or other things that people could write lore for and get permission to build with creative mode, as to create more quests, and to create an overall better RP environment (like yotta said, someone who gets this wouldn't have the ability to drop items in creative mode, place chests, ore blocks, or anything of that sort, if it was absolutely necessary they could ask a new type of mod, an "RMod" (roleplay moderator) who could give them like two diamond blocks, if it was absolutely necessary for their design.

This would create a more unified kiwike (more so than having two completely separate maps) and would be very, very unique to other RP servers.

RP would be required on either side, just on the savage side there would be more PvP, and civilized would have no PvP except for text fighting.

Milk damn i like that idea


RE: The Afterthought - bvcxzmn - 09-09-2012

(09-09-2012, 03:13)StayPuff Wrote: Let's say option 4 doesn't exist for a moment.

To be honest, all the option's can work, though option 1 and option 3 seem more reasonable than option 2, not saying that it isn't good, but it would require a lot more supervision and a lot more work for it to actually go together smoothly. Not to mention the fact that all of the options would need heavy advertisement to back it all up.

Option 1 is somewhat of a risk. Option 1 seems like you are looking at a small(ish) map if you are going to focus on heavy RP. Obviously the map could expand depending on how many RPers get interested in that particular server. It almost seems like Option 1 is saying have the normal "Kiwike 2.0" kind of server to apply to while having to still pull interest in this heavy RP based server we have over here. I could see Option 1 and Option 3 melding together really well if that happened to be the case.

I don't think Droid did a very good job of explaining option 1 either. From what I have come to understand, option 1 is basically like an add on to option 3. Correct me if I'm wrong, Gecko, but option 1 is turning Revamped into a light-RP and PvP style server, just like option 3, but the difference between the two is option 1 includes adding a new server that would be focused on true hardcore RP. This would give more freedom to the community, if they want to do some hardcore RP, then they would go to the new server, but if they want an experience more like that of 2.0, then they would go to Revamped. So a vote for option 1 would also be a vote for option 3 because option one includes the suggestion from option 3! That's exactly why I like option 1 so much, because it makes everyone happy!

Also, Asdf's post has sparked some cool ideas that could be implemented on the new server. I like your thinking!


RE: The Afterthought - theonedoctor - 09-09-2012

If i had to choose one it would be like the idea where we have separate servers but i think that we need a third server where it is just minigames to bring more people in. Like we have a public mini game server which we use to draw people into the other two Hardcore PVPers/ Not hardcore. I really do think that we just need to get our name out there more. I personally think that we should sponsor a few people like BadBoyHalo he gets plenty of view or other people to advertise our servers. Also things on the mini games can be anything from hungergames RFW or even a siege on a castle.
(09-09-2012, 07:41)theonedoctor Wrote: If i had to choose one it would be like the idea where we have separate servers but i think that we need a third server where it is just minigames to bring more people in. Like we have a public mini game server which we use to draw people into the other two Hardcore Rp/ Not hardcore. I really do think that we just need to get our name out there more. I personally think that we should sponsor a few people like BadBoyHalo he gets plenty of view or other people to advertise our servers. Also things on the mini games can be anything from hungergames RFW or even a siege on a castle.




RE: The Afterthought - geckosquid - 09-09-2012

(09-09-2012, 07:38)bvcxzmn Wrote:
(09-09-2012, 03:13)StayPuff Wrote: Let's say option 4 doesn't exist for a moment.

To be honest, all the option's can work, though option 1 and option 3 seem more reasonable than option 2, not saying that it isn't good, but it would require a lot more supervision and a lot more work for it to actually go together smoothly. Not to mention the fact that all of the options would need heavy advertisement to back it all up.

Option 1 is somewhat of a risk. Option 1 seems like you are looking at a small(ish) map if you are going to focus on heavy RP. Obviously the map could expand depending on how many RPers get interested in that particular server. It almost seems like Option 1 is saying have the normal "Kiwike 2.0" kind of server to apply to while having to still pull interest in this heavy RP based server we have over here. I could see Option 1 and Option 3 melding together really well if that happened to be the case.

I don't think Droid did a very good job of explaining option 1 either. From what I have come to understand, option 1 is basically like an add on to option 3. Correct me if I'm wrong, Gecko, but option 1 is turning Revamped into a light-RP and PvP style server, just like option 3, but the difference between the two is option 1 includes adding a new server that would be focused on true hardcore RP. This would give more freedom to the community, if they want to do some hardcore RP, then they would go to the new server, but if they want an experience more like that of 2.0, then they would go to Revamped. So a vote for option 1 would also be a vote for option 3 because option one includes the suggestion from option 3! That's exactly why I like option 1 so much, because it makes everyone happy!

Precisely.


RE: The Afterthought - ConcernedCitizen - 09-09-2012

The player base is not large enough to support multiple servers or multiple worlds effectively. We already only have 1 or 2 people online most of the time - splitting that up would do even more damage - options 1 and 2 would have been brilliant ideas several months ago but we need to rebuild the server before we start trying to expand or we will spread ourselves thin.


RE: The Afterthought - geckosquid - 09-09-2012

(09-09-2012, 07:48)ConcernedCitizen Wrote: The player base is not large enough to support multiple servers or multiple worlds effectively. We already only have 1 or 2 people online most of the time - splitting that up would do even more damage - options 1 and 2 would have been brilliant ideas several months ago but we need to rebuild the server before we start trying to expand or we will spread ourselves thin.

Look, your viewpoints are completely valid. There would be no animosity if you were to come out of your anonymity; it's just going to piss people off. You're not going to get banned for your views on the server.


RE: The Afterthought - bvcxzmn - 09-09-2012

(09-09-2012, 07:41)theonedoctor Wrote: If i had to choose one it would be like the idea where we have separate servers but i think that we need a third server where it is just minigames to bring more people in. Like we have a public mini game server which we use to draw people into the other two Hardcore PVPers/ Not hardcore. I really do think that we just need to get our name out there more. I personally think that we should sponsor a few people like BadBoyHalo he gets plenty of view or other people to advertise our servers. Also things on the mini games can be anything from hungergames RFW or even a siege on a castle.

That's not a bad idea, but it's on a slightly different topic. I recommend you bring it up at a later date.