(06-10-2011, 06:25)geckosquid Wrote:

(06-08-2011, 23:49)Android Wrote: It does give one a new feel for their allies.

I gotta say, that hurts. And to think that The Black Sun is trying to turn people against me even though I did something for the good of Kiwike... Sorry, I'm just trying to get over the absolute assholery of this whole thing. Android, please read my side of the argument. Don't fall for his attempt to make everyone hate me because he's scared that they'll rally under me against him. I say the same to anyone reading this, as well. I'm hardly scum for betraying the very guild that steals the items of most of the people on the server. This guy needs to be brought down. This isn't right.

(06-10-2011, 07:15)Cerce Wrote: Who are you to call yourself honorable? I understand that I am no honorable man myself as I have my own experiences with you, but I of all people know honor and respect when I see it. You clearly have no respect for peoples privacy. there is no honored to be gained from bringing people low. Geckosquid is far more honorable than you as he stuck his own people in protected them and gave them information to protect themselves with above his own selfish ganes that he might have gained under your leadership. you sir are simply afraid you might possibly be stirring up the wrong way if you might possibly be getting some more enemies than you already have. you probably have dirt on me and every single person who has posted in this reply but I dont give a f***. you sir are simply dishonorable and cowardly.

Quote:I've never betrayed my guild. I've never sworn allegience to a group of people who trusted me only to plot to bring them all to ruin. I may be a thief but at least my loyalty to my comrades is steadfast. When other people are depending on me, when they have given me all they have to offer and are asking me to do my part I don't spit in their faces and attempt to destroy them now that they have given me everything I wanted from them. Perhaps we have different definitions of honor, but as far as I am concerned mine is still intact. The Knights of Dusk are not here to be liked, but we are here to stay and no amount of treacherous schemes for personal glory as "the man who took down the Knights of Dusk" will be able to overcome the ties of loyalty and trust expected from and exhibited by every member of the Knights of Dusk.

(06-10-2011, 14:13)geckosquid Wrote:

Quote:I've never betrayed my guild. I've never sworn allegience to a group of people who trusted me only to plot to bring them all to ruin. I may be a thief but at least my loyalty to my comrades is steadfast. When other people are depending on me, when they have given me all they have to offer and are asking me to do my part I don't spit in their faces and attempt to destroy them now that they have given me everything I wanted from them. Perhaps we have different definitions of honor, but as far as I am concerned mine is still intact. The Knights of Dusk are not here to be liked, but we are here to stay and no amount of treacherous schemes for personal glory as "the man who took down the Knights of Dusk" will be able to overcome the ties of loyalty and trust expected from and exhibited by every member of the Knights of Dusk.

I fail to understand why you think that I am doing this for personal gain. You would do the same thing for your band of thieves as I did for the honest and trustworthy people of Kiwike... Or perhaps you wouldn't, and that is why you don't understand; because you do not realize that sometimes deceit is required to take down an enemy that is jeopardizing the well-being of every person on the server.

I only plotted to bring you down because you plan to bring down each and every member of Kiwike, forcing them on their knees and having them pay dearly just to keep their valuables safe from you. You have become the Kiwikian Mafia. So, tell me, is it not all right to try to take down the Mafia, or should they carry on terrorizing innocent people because doing otherwise would be "dishonorable"?

If you are taken down, it will not be I who takes the credit. The glory will go to your victims, who rose up to snuff the flame atop the candle of Kiwike that was melting far too much wax. So, I won't take you down. We will.

(06-10-2011, 17:01)The Black Sun Wrote:

(06-10-2011, 14:13)geckosquid Wrote:

Quote:I've never betrayed my guild. I've never sworn allegience to a group of people who trusted me only to plot to bring them all to ruin. I may be a thief but at least my loyalty to my comrades is steadfast. When other people are depending on me, when they have given me all they have to offer and are asking me to do my part I don't spit in their faces and attempt to destroy them now that they have given me everything I wanted from them. Perhaps we have different definitions of honor, but as far as I am concerned mine is still intact. The Knights of Dusk are not here to be liked, but we are here to stay and no amount of treacherous schemes for personal glory as "the man who took down the Knights of Dusk" will be able to overcome the ties of loyalty and trust expected from and exhibited by every member of the Knights of Dusk.

I fail to understand why you think that I am doing this for personal gain. You would do the same thing for your band of thieves as I did for the honest and trustworthy people of Kiwike... Or perhaps you wouldn't, and that is why you don't understand; because you do not realize that sometimes deceit is required to take down an enemy that is jeopardizing the well-being of every person on the server.

I only plotted to bring you down because you plan to bring down each and every member of Kiwike, forcing them on their knees and having them pay dearly just to keep their valuables safe from you. You have become the Kiwikian Mafia. So, tell me, is it not all right to try to take down the Mafia, or should they carry on terrorizing innocent people because doing otherwise would be "dishonorable"?

If you are taken down, it will not be I who takes the credit. The glory will go to your victims, who rose up to snuff the flame atop the candle of Kiwike that was melting far too much wax. So, I won't take you down. We will.

Perhaps we have become a Kiwike mafia of sorts and I am the godfather of my guild family.

You know, in ancient Rome when someone tried to kill their father they were rewarded with a uniquely painful punishment. First they were beaten with knotted whips until the blood ran down their backs. Then salt was rubbed into the open wounds. Next they would take the individual (missing most of his skin at this point) and stick him in a leather sack, they would also put an angry viper, dog, rooster and monkey into the sack. They would then tie the sack up, shake it a bit, and throw it into the river Tiber where the person would finally drown, skinless and torn apart by the three animals, but alive enough to experience the excitement of being in a bag with four other drowning animals.
The nature of the father did not matter. If the father was a cruel criminal and you plotted to kill him it was no less dishonourable than if the father was a law-abiding, well loved and respected citizen. In Rome a new idea was born that it is always dishonourable to betray a man who took you under his wing, offered you protection, and gave you all he had to offer. It takes a special kind of person to betray a man who gave all that he had to give to that person. Special people deserve special punishment. A Roman citizen could be sentenced to death for only two things, Parricide as mentioned above or Treachery (traitors would be hurled off the Tarpean rock to smash to pieces on the ground below), you have attempted both and still you try to claim yourself "honourable".

Anyway, by the time this is done you will wish you had been monkey-sacked.

Quote:You use the past of Ancient Greek, and Ancient Rome quite to often.