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What gives" - Pwol - 05-22-2012
Hey, I still have alot to add about the ban on Lewis.
When he says "I accept the ban" he isn't saying "Ok ill just wait out the ban that is forever, nice knowing you guys" he is saying "I understand why you banned me"
There are alot of people who have a ton to add to this ban, one being myself.
You can get the flamers to stop flaming by giving warnings not closing the discussion to those who want to participate in it.
This is a player that has know this great sever for almost two years, you are just going to toss him out the door and say "To much flame, lock"
I know you all hate Lewis, but can we give him a fair argument here, it would be appreciated if we can continue the discussion and the flamers stop flaming so we can actually get somewhere with this.
You mods can lock if you wish, but it would be appreciated if we can actually talk this out like adults.
Thank you for your consideration.
Love,
Pwol
RE: What gives" - Smythie - 05-22-2012
I don't think this needs to go anywhere to be honest he broke the rules, it's not the first time. Regardless of his time on the server, if someone came in on day one using this they would be perma banned, so why should it be different for Lewis?
RE: What gives" - Pwol - 05-22-2012
(05-22-2012, 21:37)Smythie Wrote: I don't think this needs to go anywhere to be honest he broke the rules, it's not the first time. Regardless of his time on the server, if someone came in on day one using this they would be perma banned, so why should it be different for Lewis?
To be honest with you, I think only since it is Nlewis that the crime resulted in a perma, kinda like Oranges.
RE: What gives" - Cell - 05-22-2012
Smythie, Peter is reaching out for a fair argument, not for a point of view that is not subject to changed. Nothing against you, but I say just let Nick get his fair argument.
Ian, and all of Asdf's group was un-banned for something that far exceeds x-ray, the least Nick can get is a chance.
RE: What gives" - oranges44 - 05-22-2012
Nlewis wasen't banned for xray....
Edit : Oh you're comparing simply?
RE: What gives" - Pwol - 05-22-2012
(05-22-2012, 21:39)Cell Wrote: Smythie, Peter is reaching out for a fair argument, not for a point of view that is not subject to changed. Nothing against you, but I say just let Nick get his fair argument.
Ian, and all of Asdf's group was un-banned for something that far exceeds x-ray, the least Nick can get is a chance.
Well thank you sir
RE: What gives" - Smythie - 05-22-2012
(05-22-2012, 21:39)Pwol Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:37)Smythie Wrote: I don't think this needs to go anywhere to be honest he broke the rules, it's not the first time. Regardless of his time on the server, if someone came in on day one using this they would be perma banned, so why should it be different for Lewis?
To be honest with you, I think only since it is Nlewis that the crime resulted in a perma, kinda like Oranges.
I don't think Lewis was hated on the server to be honest I never had problems with him/ I don't think any other people had serious problems either.
(05-22-2012, 21:39)Cell Wrote: Smythie, Peter is reaching out for a fair argument, not for a point of view that is not subject to changed. Nothing against you, but I say just let Nick get his fair argument.
Ian, and all of Asdf's group was un-banned for something that far exceeds x-ray, the least Nick can get is a chance.
I don't think it's a fair argument if only Pwol and Lewis are allowed to argue their point. I also don't agree with Ian and asdf's ban but that wasn't my decision. But if that was a valid argument anyone who got banned could say oh well asdf and all those other guys got unbanned and they did much worse. I think that was a big mistake on the part of mods as it was the ignition to the "biased" and "corrupt" insults hurled at them too, along with undermining the banning system on kiwike.
RE: What gives" - Cell - 05-22-2012
(05-22-2012, 21:43)Smythie Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:39)Pwol Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:37)Smythie Wrote: I don't think this needs to go anywhere to be honest he broke the rules, it's not the first time. Regardless of his time on the server, if someone came in on day one using this they would be perma banned, so why should it be different for Lewis?
To be honest with you, I think only since it is Nlewis that the crime resulted in a perma, kinda like Oranges.
I don't think Lewis was hated on the server to be honest I never had problems with him/ I don't think any other people had serious problems either.
(05-22-2012, 21:39)Cell Wrote: Smythie, Peter is reaching out for a fair argument, not for a point of view that is not subject to changed. Nothing against you, but I say just let Nick get his fair argument.
Ian, and all of Asdf's group was un-banned for something that far exceeds x-ray, the least Nick can get is a chance.
I don't think it's a fair argument if only Pwol and Lewis are allowed to argue their point. I also don't agree with Ian and asdf's ban but that wasn't my decision. But if that was a valid argument anyone who got banned could say oh well asdf and all those other guys got unbanned and they did much worse. I think that was a big mistake on the part of mods as it was the ignition to the "biased" and "corrupt" insults hurled at them too, along with undermining the banning system on kiwike.
Not the place to talk about that really. But i'm just asking to not just come in here and say the same thing everyone says. "He broke the rules and got banned".
RE: What gives" - Smythie - 05-22-2012
(05-22-2012, 21:46)Cell Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:43)Smythie Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:39)Pwol Wrote:(05-22-2012, 21:37)Smythie Wrote: I don't think this needs to go anywhere to be honest he broke the rules, it's not the first time. Regardless of his time on the server, if someone came in on day one using this they would be perma banned, so why should it be different for Lewis?
To be honest with you, I think only since it is Nlewis that the crime resulted in a perma, kinda like Oranges.
I don't think Lewis was hated on the server to be honest I never had problems with him/ I don't think any other people had serious problems either.
(05-22-2012, 21:39)Cell Wrote: Smythie, Peter is reaching out for a fair argument, not for a point of view that is not subject to changed. Nothing against you, but I say just let Nick get his fair argument.
Ian, and all of Asdf's group was un-banned for something that far exceeds x-ray, the least Nick can get is a chance.
I don't think it's a fair argument if only Pwol and Lewis are allowed to argue their point. I also don't agree with Ian and asdf's ban but that wasn't my decision. But if that was a valid argument anyone who got banned could say oh well asdf and all those other guys got unbanned and they did much worse. I think that was a big mistake on the part of mods as it was the ignition to the "biased" and "corrupt" insults hurled at them too, along with undermining the banning system on kiwike.
Not the place to talk about that really. But i'm just asking to not just come in here and say the same thing everyone says. "He broke the rules and got banned".
You brought asdf up xD but I mean yeah I'll wait for Pwol to actually bring up points about why Lewis should be unbanned and I'll put up my argument.
RE: What gives" - oranges44 - 05-22-2012
You'll put up your argument? so you're saying you won't even consider what he says and auto reply with backfire? Seem's logical.