<![CDATA[Kiwike forums - House of Commerce]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/ Wed, 02 Sep 2026 07:56:42 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Bill 33.0 - Removal of State (Halren)]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2120 Mon, 07 Nov 2011 22:02:08 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2120 I feel that there are no benefits, and so do others, to this other than the fact that Halren gets the full right to attack other Freely.
This puts them at a position to start war with Helvanthar, intentional or not, as they are still apart of it, and if they where to attack another Nation, the nation may take it as an act of war.

The bill proposes that they are removed from state, and returned to the normal status of a town within the nation, just like others.

Side note, I don't want this to but a flame war with the citizens of Halren targeting me for putting this up, rather just a "I accept, (Short reason)", or a "I decline, (Short reason)", will suffice.

]]> I feel that there are no benefits, and so do others, to this other than the fact that Halren gets the full right to attack other Freely.
This puts them at a position to start war with Helvanthar, intentional or not, as they are still apart of it, and if they where to attack another Nation, the nation may take it as an act of war.

The bill proposes that they are removed from state, and returned to the normal status of a town within the nation, just like others.

Side note, I don't want this to but a flame war with the citizens of Halren targeting me for putting this up, rather just a "I accept, (Short reason)", or a "I decline, (Short reason)", will suffice.

]]> <![CDATA[Bill 04.1 - Helvan Trade Pact (Revised)]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2068 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 02:27:09 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2068 1. As much business as possible be kept within the nation.
2. Absolutely no trading of weapons, supplies, or materials to enemy nations or parties.
- This includes selling materials with the intent of them being passed on or sold to enemies.
3. Any citizen or town found to have sold/selling to enemies are to be punished or fined as to discretion of the House of Commerce, a national court assembly, or Android himself.
4. The best interests of Helvanthar are to be kept at mind when thinking of the economy, or any business endeavours.
5. It be made illegal to scam, or knowingly cheat fellow citizens out of money or resources.
6. Any and all debt acquired between citizens be payed back as priority to out-of-nation individuals.

These suggestions are made in the attempt to reduce a growing debt problem, keep money within the nation, stop supplying enemies and to bring about as much profitability to the nation as possible without hurting any of our own.]]> 1. As much business as possible be kept within the nation.
2. Absolutely no trading of weapons, supplies, or materials to enemy nations or parties.
- This includes selling materials with the intent of them being passed on or sold to enemies.
3. Any citizen or town found to have sold/selling to enemies are to be punished or fined as to discretion of the House of Commerce, a national court assembly, or Android himself.
4. The best interests of Helvanthar are to be kept at mind when thinking of the economy, or any business endeavours.
5. It be made illegal to scam, or knowingly cheat fellow citizens out of money or resources.
6. Any and all debt acquired between citizens be payed back as priority to out-of-nation individuals.

These suggestions are made in the attempt to reduce a growing debt problem, keep money within the nation, stop supplying enemies and to bring about as much profitability to the nation as possible without hurting any of our own.]]> <![CDATA[Bill 15.0 - State of Halren Act]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2051 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:57:57 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2051
This state will operate in warfare under it's own name and choices, while the nation as a whole will not be held accountable. In the same context, our allegiance is to only Helvanthar and its towns. The town of Halren shall stay a town within the nation, and continue to take part in the House of Commerce and national military (in whole-nation endeavours) like always.

This course of action is only temporary so long as until the goals intended for this state are reached. These goals are to achieve greatness, glory, and pride for the nation from a level an ordinary town cannot achieve. Any towns with similar ideals that are wishing to join this Helvan-power state may contact skote11 or Crashlander04 for more information.

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This state will operate in warfare under it's own name and choices, while the nation as a whole will not be held accountable. In the same context, our allegiance is to only Helvanthar and its towns. The town of Halren shall stay a town within the nation, and continue to take part in the House of Commerce and national military (in whole-nation endeavours) like always.

This course of action is only temporary so long as until the goals intended for this state are reached. These goals are to achieve greatness, glory, and pride for the nation from a level an ordinary town cannot achieve. Any towns with similar ideals that are wishing to join this Helvan-power state may contact skote11 or Crashlander04 for more information.

]]> <![CDATA[Bill 13.0 - Removal of Phalinx]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2050 Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:44:34 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2050 Many people dislike him, and allthough court was held in Halren today, it is in favor that Asdf be removed by the Commerce.
If you agree, please post below with your reason, and that you agree.
If you do not, say you do not.
Make sure you also vote in the poll.

My reason: Taking pot shots at me although i am a fellow member.]]> Many people dislike him, and allthough court was held in Halren today, it is in favor that Asdf be removed by the Commerce.
If you agree, please post below with your reason, and that you agree.
If you do not, say you do not.
Make sure you also vote in the poll.

My reason: Taking pot shots at me although i am a fellow member.]]> <![CDATA[Bill 05.0 - Military Act]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2038 Fri, 21 Oct 2011 21:56:24 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2038 As well, this bill proposes to officially set up a national military, along with a set rank hierarchy to determine authority.

eg..
(my personal recommendation for a better rank system)
Admiral - Elected main leader of military operations.
General - Chosen by Admiral to lead their specified town (one from each town ((duh)) )
Sergeant - (only necessary for large towns) Assigned to leader smaller groups of soldiers under direction of the General for their town.
Recruit - Base level, soldier obligated to fight for their nation.
Militia - May choose to fight, but has the choice not to.

This military will ultimately ensure the safety, well-being, and interests of the nation as a whole and answer to the House of Commerce (through bills and legislature) and the Emperor. With branches in each town, the military would gather recruits who choose to sign up to a proud obligation to fight for their nation, while militia (those who may choose to fight or not) or citizens who choose to remain peaceful unless directly attacked would have those options instead.

I understand that we do have a form of military already, but to add it to the legislature officially and democratically seems critical for the organization and structure to be upheld and understood.]]> As well, this bill proposes to officially set up a national military, along with a set rank hierarchy to determine authority.

eg..
(my personal recommendation for a better rank system)
Admiral - Elected main leader of military operations.
General - Chosen by Admiral to lead their specified town (one from each town ((duh)) )
Sergeant - (only necessary for large towns) Assigned to leader smaller groups of soldiers under direction of the General for their town.
Recruit - Base level, soldier obligated to fight for their nation.
Militia - May choose to fight, but has the choice not to.

This military will ultimately ensure the safety, well-being, and interests of the nation as a whole and answer to the House of Commerce (through bills and legislature) and the Emperor. With branches in each town, the military would gather recruits who choose to sign up to a proud obligation to fight for their nation, while militia (those who may choose to fight or not) or citizens who choose to remain peaceful unless directly attacked would have those options instead.

I understand that we do have a form of military already, but to add it to the legislature officially and democratically seems critical for the organization and structure to be upheld and understood.]]> <![CDATA[Bill 9.0 - Commerce Proposal Limits]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2028 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 02:31:07 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2028
The first part of the bill, has to due with timing on bills.
As of currently not a single bill has made a final decision due to needing more Commerce members to vote for a clear majority. With this, I would like to propose that a set time of 72 hours, which is subject to change, be put on every bill once it is purposed. The final vote count shall be the decision.

The second part of this bill, has to due with the amount of bill's proposed by a single person.
This has come up due to the fact of Crashlander creating many bills in the past few days, which isn't technically a bad thing. But is quite confusing, and as of now, we have multiple bills just by him open and still voting. What I am proposing is that after the bill you just proposed is finished, in say 72 hours, then you are allowed to propose the next. This limits the amount of bills that are currently open, and allows more concentration to one or the other, not to a cluster of 3-5 at once, allowing a much clearer decision among the house.

This is all subject to change if the timing is not liked, etc.]]>
The first part of the bill, has to due with timing on bills.
As of currently not a single bill has made a final decision due to needing more Commerce members to vote for a clear majority. With this, I would like to propose that a set time of 72 hours, which is subject to change, be put on every bill once it is purposed. The final vote count shall be the decision.

The second part of this bill, has to due with the amount of bill's proposed by a single person.
This has come up due to the fact of Crashlander creating many bills in the past few days, which isn't technically a bad thing. But is quite confusing, and as of now, we have multiple bills just by him open and still voting. What I am proposing is that after the bill you just proposed is finished, in say 72 hours, then you are allowed to propose the next. This limits the amount of bills that are currently open, and allows more concentration to one or the other, not to a cluster of 3-5 at once, allowing a much clearer decision among the house.

This is all subject to change if the timing is not liked, etc.]]> <![CDATA[Bill 21 - Commerce Confidentiality Act]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2027 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 01:40:51 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2027
I propose that the sub-forum be made exclusive to House of Commerce Members, or if absolutely necessary, the public of Helvanthar.
It must be noted that the opinions of all civilians would still be acknowledged through their elected Commerce Member, and that the bills will still be revealed to them once they are passed and put in the legislature of Helvanthar.

Please consider my proposal fairly, and without personal contempt against my own.]]>
I propose that the sub-forum be made exclusive to House of Commerce Members, or if absolutely necessary, the public of Helvanthar.
It must be noted that the opinions of all civilians would still be acknowledged through their elected Commerce Member, and that the bills will still be revealed to them once they are passed and put in the legislature of Helvanthar.

Please consider my proposal fairly, and without personal contempt against my own.]]> <![CDATA[House of Commerce Brainstorm Meeting]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2021 Tue, 18 Oct 2011 23:01:10 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=2021
Fellow Members of Commerce, this thread is for us to place thoughts, and miscellaneous ideas on what you think would benefit the nation in order to fully develop or grow ideas along with our Commerce as a whole.

Please don't steal other Member's ideas and post them as your own bills.]]>
Fellow Members of Commerce, this thread is for us to place thoughts, and miscellaneous ideas on what you think would benefit the nation in order to fully develop or grow ideas along with our Commerce as a whole.

Please don't steal other Member's ideas and post them as your own bills.]]> <![CDATA[Bill 04.0 - Helvan Trade Pact]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=1999 Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:35:46 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=1999 - if an item is needed, or simply desired, by a citizen or town within the nation, and multiple towns/players are selling these items, the purchaser would be encouraged to buy from the option within the nation.
- the above only applies if the prices set by the fellow citizen are reasonably priced, and fair.
- distance on the server is a negligible factor for Helvanthar if properly prepared. Nether paths, and post-offices (highly recommended to make one) render travel and transportation delays almost non-existent.

eg. Skote11, and TehCthulu are both selling iron ingots 16 for 1g, and Spammuff wants to buy iron. Spammuff would be obligated to buy from Skote11 as he is a citizen of Helvathar.

eg. Let's say that TehCthulu had lower prices, selling iron ingots 16 for 0.75g. Spammuff could still buy from Skote11. Though Spammuff would be sad he had to pay 0.25g more for his purchase, he would still make money from other citizens returning the favour and using his shops (stopping him from being undercut as well).

eg. What if Spammuff now has his iron ingots, and wants slime balls too? If slime balls could not be found for a reasonable price, or were not currently available from a Helvan citizen, Spammuff would be free to do business with TehCthulu.

eg. And God knows skote11 is the only person selling slave- iron ingots within the nation. So he decides to raise the price to 15g per ingot. Under no circumstance whatsoever would other citizens be obligated to buy from his monopoly, as it is an unreasonable price.

It must be considered that, even though items may cost more to buy as undercut price, out-of-nation shops would no longer be available, more customers would (in return) buy from your shops, returning profit to individual citizens. It is not expected that a citizen search through every town in Helvanthar for a possible shop with the designated item, but would instead inquire whether a town's shops include that item if in reasonable range of your location.
This bill would keep money within the nation, increase our economy, and promote positive interaction and activity between towns in our nation.

Signature:
Crashlander04,
Skote11,
Android24557,
]]> - if an item is needed, or simply desired, by a citizen or town within the nation, and multiple towns/players are selling these items, the purchaser would be encouraged to buy from the option within the nation.
- the above only applies if the prices set by the fellow citizen are reasonably priced, and fair.
- distance on the server is a negligible factor for Helvanthar if properly prepared. Nether paths, and post-offices (highly recommended to make one) render travel and transportation delays almost non-existent.

eg. Skote11, and TehCthulu are both selling iron ingots 16 for 1g, and Spammuff wants to buy iron. Spammuff would be obligated to buy from Skote11 as he is a citizen of Helvathar.

eg. Let's say that TehCthulu had lower prices, selling iron ingots 16 for 0.75g. Spammuff could still buy from Skote11. Though Spammuff would be sad he had to pay 0.25g more for his purchase, he would still make money from other citizens returning the favour and using his shops (stopping him from being undercut as well).

eg. What if Spammuff now has his iron ingots, and wants slime balls too? If slime balls could not be found for a reasonable price, or were not currently available from a Helvan citizen, Spammuff would be free to do business with TehCthulu.

eg. And God knows skote11 is the only person selling slave- iron ingots within the nation. So he decides to raise the price to 15g per ingot. Under no circumstance whatsoever would other citizens be obligated to buy from his monopoly, as it is an unreasonable price.

It must be considered that, even though items may cost more to buy as undercut price, out-of-nation shops would no longer be available, more customers would (in return) buy from your shops, returning profit to individual citizens. It is not expected that a citizen search through every town in Helvanthar for a possible shop with the designated item, but would instead inquire whether a town's shops include that item if in reasonable range of your location.
This bill would keep money within the nation, increase our economy, and promote positive interaction and activity between towns in our nation.

Signature:
Crashlander04,
Skote11,
Android24557,
]]> <![CDATA[Bill, H/B.0.78 "Bludwick Town Mine?"]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=1213 Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:09:48 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=1213 Bill S.0.78 "Bludwick Town Mine?"

Bludwick, The Main-city of helvanthar, has alot of members, yet has no current mine.

What This Bill Proposes!

This bill proposes to make a public mine, under the name of helvanthar and bludwick, far away from town, in a rich area of the map filled with alot of minerals.

This will help keep the economy up, and will help to keep the citizens with a job/hobby

So How Would It Be Built, Or How Would We Get There?!

I Have devised a plan, this is the plan to make the mine attached to the main subway line, and people would be able to use booster rails or mine-carts with chests.

The building would be build and maintained by the bludwick citizens and/or mayor and assistant

Rules

25% Of Minerals will go to bludwick, but all the rest are the Player/Miners own loot,
No X-Rayers to use the mine, they just leave sickly tunnels, this has to look nice,
A System of miners, such as Head-Miner and Miners. who will work day/night
Overseer System,
Password entry system, (Bludwick citizens will be allowed the password)

Collection, And How It Will Work (Thanks To Granite123)

Perhaps inside this Mining Station, we should make a Central Hub where we put storage minecart where that would travel to Bludwick through a system of tracks and powered rails. There at the collection point we make at Bludwick, a person would stand at the collection point collecting minerals to put inside the vault. The person would collect minerals after notification of a batch of minerals coming through the minetracks.

Signatures
Please Representatives Sign!
-Spammuff-
-Stugmaster-
-Granite123-]]> Bill S.0.78 "Bludwick Town Mine?"

Bludwick, The Main-city of helvanthar, has alot of members, yet has no current mine.

What This Bill Proposes!

This bill proposes to make a public mine, under the name of helvanthar and bludwick, far away from town, in a rich area of the map filled with alot of minerals.

This will help keep the economy up, and will help to keep the citizens with a job/hobby

So How Would It Be Built, Or How Would We Get There?!

I Have devised a plan, this is the plan to make the mine attached to the main subway line, and people would be able to use booster rails or mine-carts with chests.

The building would be build and maintained by the bludwick citizens and/or mayor and assistant

Rules

25% Of Minerals will go to bludwick, but all the rest are the Player/Miners own loot,
No X-Rayers to use the mine, they just leave sickly tunnels, this has to look nice,
A System of miners, such as Head-Miner and Miners. who will work day/night
Overseer System,
Password entry system, (Bludwick citizens will be allowed the password)

Collection, And How It Will Work (Thanks To Granite123)

Perhaps inside this Mining Station, we should make a Central Hub where we put storage minecart where that would travel to Bludwick through a system of tracks and powered rails. There at the collection point we make at Bludwick, a person would stand at the collection point collecting minerals to put inside the vault. The person would collect minerals after notification of a batch of minerals coming through the minetracks.

Signatures
Please Representatives Sign!
-Spammuff-
-Stugmaster-
-Granite123-]]> <![CDATA[[Info] House of Commerce]]> http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=915 Tue, 31 May 2011 18:09:20 +0000 http://kiwike.yottabyte.nu/forum/showthread.php?tid=915 Introduction -

The House of Commerce, which any true Helvan should know by now, is what makes up our wonderful nation. The decisions made here ultimately effect the doings of the entire extended reach of Helvanthar. The House of Commerce truly defines our beautiful Republic. More specifically, within the House of Commerce will be decided the laws and smaller rules that will in turn be followed by all.

Representatives -

Elected to a two-week term, each representative serves the people by introducing bills, voting on bills, and serving on committees, among other duties.

Please, feel free to approach any member of the HoC if a question arises. A list of representatives will be provided in this very Sub-Board to help.

Gaining a place in the HoC will be decided individually by each town within the jurisdiction of Helvanthar. These ways could include a democratic take, where the citizens themselves decide, or a group of officials will end up deciding. It's ultimately the town's choice. Listed below will be the towns and their representatives.

Bludwick - Allowed 8
  • Ian25
  • Saqfish
  • yottabyte
  • Dreviore
  • NB_Ranger_18
  • tristo999
  • DragonWing17
Midgar - Allowed 2
  • Fashionmonkey
Canterlot - Allowed 1
  • Spammuff
Sunset Alley - Allowed 2
  • Geckosquid
  • XCellX
The Perfect - Allowed 6
  • Pavja2
Lakeville Cove - Allowed 2
  • Saera
  • Rhodes87
Sonrah - Allowed 1
  • MasterCreate66

Voting Procedures -

In short, gaining a place in the HoC will be decided individually by each town within the jurisdiction of Helvanthar. These ways could include a democratic take, where the citizens themselves decide, or a group of officials could end up deciding. It's ultimately the town's choice. The amount of representatives each town will obtain within the HoC will be dependent on their population. The official rate set up as of now is one representative, plus one more per every five citizens of the town respectively.

Proposals

When a member of the HoC finds that something needs to be changed, in this very sub-forum, they will propose amendments to the nation. These amendments could range from things like changing taxes, to war decisions, to even changing the amendment format posted below. These will be referred to as 'bills'. A member will only be able to have one open bill at a time. Whence their old bill has either been passed or vetoed, they will be able to post another.

Only HoC representatives may propose bills. Should a representative want to propose this amendment, there is a strict format that needs to be followed.

Format:
Quote:Thread title - What it is you're proposing

Proposal:
Explanation of the bill (How does this benefit the nation?):
Signatures (Who else supports this amendment?):
(Needs at least three signatures to be proposed, including yourself.)
-
-
-

Put these requirements of the proposal into a thread of its own under the House of Commerce sub-forum, and you're on your way to making the Republic of Helvanthar a better place for its citizens.

Passing Bills

Once the thread has been posted, it will be an open forum for all other HoC representatives. The members will reply by saying whether it should be passed, or not, and of course, why. After a 72 hours, and/or when a clear majority has already been reached, the bill will either be passed or vetoed. If it is has been vetoed, it will be locked. If it should be passed, the change will occur over the period of a day. These bills may be vetoed by the Head of State only, should they be out of hand, or unrealizable.]]> Introduction -

The House of Commerce, which any true Helvan should know by now, is what makes up our wonderful nation. The decisions made here ultimately effect the doings of the entire extended reach of Helvanthar. The House of Commerce truly defines our beautiful Republic. More specifically, within the House of Commerce will be decided the laws and smaller rules that will in turn be followed by all.

Representatives -

Elected to a two-week term, each representative serves the people by introducing bills, voting on bills, and serving on committees, among other duties.

Please, feel free to approach any member of the HoC if a question arises. A list of representatives will be provided in this very Sub-Board to help.

Gaining a place in the HoC will be decided individually by each town within the jurisdiction of Helvanthar. These ways could include a democratic take, where the citizens themselves decide, or a group of officials will end up deciding. It's ultimately the town's choice. Listed below will be the towns and their representatives.

Bludwick - Allowed 8
  • Ian25
  • Saqfish
  • yottabyte
  • Dreviore
  • NB_Ranger_18
  • tristo999
  • DragonWing17
Midgar - Allowed 2
  • Fashionmonkey
Canterlot - Allowed 1
  • Spammuff
Sunset Alley - Allowed 2
  • Geckosquid
  • XCellX
The Perfect - Allowed 6
  • Pavja2
Lakeville Cove - Allowed 2
  • Saera
  • Rhodes87
Sonrah - Allowed 1
  • MasterCreate66

Voting Procedures -

In short, gaining a place in the HoC will be decided individually by each town within the jurisdiction of Helvanthar. These ways could include a democratic take, where the citizens themselves decide, or a group of officials could end up deciding. It's ultimately the town's choice. The amount of representatives each town will obtain within the HoC will be dependent on their population. The official rate set up as of now is one representative, plus one more per every five citizens of the town respectively.

Proposals

When a member of the HoC finds that something needs to be changed, in this very sub-forum, they will propose amendments to the nation. These amendments could range from things like changing taxes, to war decisions, to even changing the amendment format posted below. These will be referred to as 'bills'. A member will only be able to have one open bill at a time. Whence their old bill has either been passed or vetoed, they will be able to post another.

Only HoC representatives may propose bills. Should a representative want to propose this amendment, there is a strict format that needs to be followed.

Format:
Quote:Thread title - What it is you're proposing

Proposal:
Explanation of the bill (How does this benefit the nation?):
Signatures (Who else supports this amendment?):
(Needs at least three signatures to be proposed, including yourself.)
-
-
-

Put these requirements of the proposal into a thread of its own under the House of Commerce sub-forum, and you're on your way to making the Republic of Helvanthar a better place for its citizens.

Passing Bills

Once the thread has been posted, it will be an open forum for all other HoC representatives. The members will reply by saying whether it should be passed, or not, and of course, why. After a 72 hours, and/or when a clear majority has already been reached, the bill will either be passed or vetoed. If it is has been vetoed, it will be locked. If it should be passed, the change will occur over the period of a day. These bills may be vetoed by the Head of State only, should they be out of hand, or unrealizable.]]>