I think you need to calm down son. I was willing to make my own nation, and I still am. I'm just doing it with insurance from a stronger power because I'm tired of being raided by you and your goons. Not to mention you turned out to be quite the con artist, moderator of the people indeed. Finally, I don't have the time to make my own nation, my guild and I have little time and we want to spend it playing the game, not all this setup. So we joined Helvanthar, because allot of people already have and I like the towns who have joined them. The Empire is still a nation with her own rules, people, and constitution, we are just ten times stronger with Helvanthar at our back!

Cry all you want Suba, you had your chance, now you'll burn like the rest.