Kiwike: Revamped

geckosquid · 11-27-2011, 21:11,

Guys, what's done is done. There's no changing it now. Believe me, I tried.

Android · 11-27-2011, 21:11,

If their character is going to be a shady, rotten scumbag, because that's likely to happen if they're untrustworthy, there's your reason.

Natain · 11-27-2011, 21:40,

Heres my recomendation for the grudge problem. If they want to act all nice and friendly, just be nice and friendly, but tell them that you dont want them to stay with you, and to go away. People you do trust, you can be more willing to accept cohabitance.

I for one am not going to pretend that I trust anyone. I am going assume people want to kill, or steal, or grief, because thats all the people have shown. My definition of greifing does not match up with the servers definition, so forgive me if I use that word liberaly. Or don't forgive me, it makes little difference.

Those of you who say I am not making friends, can pack it. Every time Vlad and I are trusting or allow someone into the place, they raid and greif. there are trustworthy people, but they dont come around because they are huddling in their towns and dont socialize very much except for war or trade. People who are wandering around are more than likely raiders with the intent to kill you. Be paranoid, and be safe.

Cerce · 11-27-2011, 22:35,

OK: Here's the problem.

In Kiwike 1.0 - Cerce was just Cerce. He was a refugee from another kingdom that he was exiled from for religious purposes. EVERYTHING ELSE about Cerce was invented, compounded, recorded, and implimented in Kiwike 1.0, the temp servers, and 2.0. Basically; Cerce isn't Cerce without his past - and his only past is Kiwike. I understand that *you* want a clean sheet - because some people can't handle having their track reccord reguarding RP events following them (and they will still follow them, if not illegally - you can ban me for all I care, Geckosquid is still Geckosquid to me). You cannot, repeat *CANNOT* force roleplay, or types of roleplay, or what roleplays are reccorded or kept or not reccorded or kept. To do so would change the very fabrick of roleplay in and of itself, similar to disliking gas prices, making a law forbidding cars, and everything that entails the making of cars, to the point where the entire history of cars is lost, and we have to re-invent the wheel.

I understand for those that were not connected with past roleplays wanting a clean sheet so that they can participate in new ones - but quite frankly, *YOU ALREADY HAVE A CLEAN SHEET*. Android - the only time Cerce has ever roleplayed with you was for five minutes in 1.0. Everything else was done via letters and couriers reguarding diplomatic ties.

I also understand wanting no towns or nations to transfer over - but there *MUST* be a roleplay reason for it. Let's say an earthquake happened and all of Kiwike was sucked into a black hole and pigmen took over the lands and a cosmic sandwich monster teleported us to a random continent via unicorn travel for all I care; but there MUST be a reason for why we lost our memories, why Kiwike 2.0 doesn't exist. For example: Kiwike 1.0 does not exist (at least, in Cerantian lore) because of the Great Griefer Plague of Bamboo City, and it's spreading to Blackrock and Everflame thereafter.

This is one of the many reasons I consider myself one of a dying breed of roleplayer, Android. Because everything is roleplay, and everything must be roleplayed; else we loose the very essence of what you are trying to create: and that is a new roleplay environment.

I don't know how to make that any clearer.

geckosquid · 11-27-2011, 22:45,

Don't worry, Cerce; I'm trying to convince them to let me write the story bridging 2.0 and Revamped.

Naamandre3 · (This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 22:50 by Naamandre3.)

Cerce, that you think i do not have a role play reason to wipe things out.
I'm not that much of a role playing noob.

But i disagree with the fact.
I see a summing up that you have a lot of experience with your character.
But no reason why you could not start over you are saying "Everything is roleplay"
yet you never stated that "Everything is roleplay - with my old character" why not make a newone?
Its not like, its worth any gold, or or memories.

Make, new memories, we are going a new route.
And therefore we need new people, new IC people.

Cerce · 11-27-2011, 22:53,

Naamandre. No. I will not re-create something that has litterally 40 pages of lore (roughly). I'm not... NOT going to do that.

And I'm not calling you a noob. I am, however, saying that you most likely have not been a member of multiple different roleplaying games requiring intricacy.

Crashlander04 · 11-27-2011, 22:55,

reinvent the wheel? i like it..

Cerce · (This post was last modified: 11-27-2011, 23:02 by Android.)

Edit - Unnecessary.

Going back to Mount and Blade.

Someone email me when this matter is resolved and/or the new map comes.

Android · 11-27-2011, 22:59,

You have that huge background story Cerce, where you were cast out and such, so take that, and put it directly before the day we're introduced to the world of Revamped,

Yotta likes to call 2.0 a failed project, and we're going to be taking a new approach, with a brand new story, no bridge over any gap. In fact, no gap.