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Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
04-19-2012, 01:18,
Post: #1
Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
I'm not TheGreatNut, but this kinda irks me.

TheGreatNut got banned by geckosquid for crop griefing. Crop griefing. That thing that was declared legal by Android. Now, either I'm not understanding something or our moderation team needs to pay more attention to the updates in rules.

TheGreatNut is a friend of mine and I don't want to see him banned for 3 days (I think) for something that is completely allowed.

Please correct me if I am misunderstanding something.

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04-19-2012, 01:23,
Post: #2
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
There's a difference between stealing crops (perfectly allowed, just try to replant at least a little), and simply breaking them for them to despawn without attempting to replant at all.

Gecko witnessed this firsthand and saw this as intentional, unnecessary damage (ie; actual grief).

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04-19-2012, 01:23,
Post: #3
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
(04-19-2012, 01:18)Seandragon123 Wrote: I'm not TheGreatNut, but this kinda irks me.

TheGreatNut got banned by geckosquid for crop griefing. Crop griefing. That thing that was declared legal by Android. Now, either I'm not understanding something or our moderation team needs to pay more attention to the updates in rules.

TheGreatNut is a friend of mine and I don't want to see him banned for 3 days (I think) for something that is completely allowed.

Please correct me if I am misunderstanding something.

The moderators decided that since the crops were destroyed with purely malicious intentions (because he didn't take the wheat he broke, he just left it there on the ground) that it is grief. So, why don't you try to, in the future, refrain from taking stabs at the mods when you have no idea what you are talking about.

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04-19-2012, 01:25,
Post: #4
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
What they said.

Sorry the title of the ban was misleading, seeing as how we did declare earlier that so called 'crop grief' was legal. I'd say this is just general grief. In the ban descriptions we should be adding something to give the banned an idea of exactly what happened.

Also, if you're still doubtful, Gecko has a screenshot of the wheat simply waiting to despawn.
04-19-2012, 01:37, (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012, 01:41 by TheGreatNut.)
Post: #5
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
But who said and when that crop greifing with malicios intentions is illeagal. I wasn't aware of it and last I heard crop griefing, to any degree, was leagal. I feel like I should have at least bene warned before being banned for a rule that to my knowledge did not exist (to any extent).
(04-19-2012, 01:25)Android Wrote: What they said.

Sorry the title of the ban was misleading, seeing as how we did declare earlier that so called 'crop grief' was legal. I'd say this is just general grief. In the ban descriptions we should be adding something to give the banned an idea of exactly what happened.

Also, if you're still doubtful, Gecko has a screenshot of the wheat simply waiting to despawn.

And no matter how manny crops i greifed it was still a crop grief.
04-19-2012, 01:51,
Post: #6
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
Yes, but the only reason crop "grief" is allowed is because it falls under the category of "stealing", ie. taking other's possession for your own use. What you did does not benefit the victim or yourself, hence it is rather non-rp like. It is similar to someone emptying a chest and letting the items despawn.

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04-19-2012, 01:59,
Post: #7
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
(04-19-2012, 01:51)Saera Wrote: Yes, but the only reason crop "grief" is allowed is because it falls under the category of "stealing", ie. taking other's possession for your own use. What you did does not benefit the victim or yourself, hence it is rather non-rp like. It is similar to someone emptying a chest and letting the items despawn.

It does fit rp since I am at war with leech and the rest of Bowser's nation, and they have a surplus of bread and other crops, it makes since for me to want to disrupt their supplies via destroying said crops.
04-19-2012, 02:01,
Post: #8
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
(04-19-2012, 01:59)TheGreatNut Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 01:51)Saera Wrote: Yes, but the only reason crop "grief" is allowed is because it falls under the category of "stealing", ie. taking other's possession for your own use. What you did does not benefit the victim or yourself, hence it is rather non-rp like. It is similar to someone emptying a chest and letting the items despawn.

It does fit rp since I am at war with leech and the rest of Bowser's nation, and they have a surplus of bread and other crops, it makes since for me to want to disrupt their supplies via destroying said crops.

There is no official nations nor wars yet. This would make sense in a proper war during Age III or later.

04-19-2012, 02:05, (This post was last modified: 04-19-2012, 02:07 by TheGreatNut.)
Post: #9
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
(04-19-2012, 02:01)yottabyte Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 01:59)TheGreatNut Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 01:51)Saera Wrote: Yes, but the only reason crop "grief" is allowed is because it falls under the category of "stealing", ie. taking other's possession for your own use. What you did does not benefit the victim or yourself, hence it is rather non-rp like. It is similar to someone emptying a chest and letting the items despawn.

It does fit rp since I am at war with leech and the rest of Bowser's nation, and they have a surplus of bread and other crops, it makes since for me to want to disrupt their supplies via destroying said crops.

There is no official nations nor wars yet. This would make sense in a proper war during Age III or later.

Well regardless my character is still angry with Bowser and his freinds and wants to take it out on them and their neighbors, and regardles of nations my character has a personal vandeta with them and the people around which they live, and will do anything to cause them misfortune.

04-19-2012, 02:17,
Post: #10
RE: Unofficial Ban Appeal-TheGreatNut
(04-19-2012, 02:05)TheGreatNut Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 02:01)yottabyte Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 01:59)TheGreatNut Wrote:
(04-19-2012, 01:51)Saera Wrote: Yes, but the only reason crop "grief" is allowed is because it falls under the category of "stealing", ie. taking other's possession for your own use. What you did does not benefit the victim or yourself, hence it is rather non-rp like. It is similar to someone emptying a chest and letting the items despawn.

It does fit rp since I am at war with leech and the rest of Bowser's nation, and they have a surplus of bread and other crops, it makes since for me to want to disrupt their supplies via destroying said crops.

There is no official nations nor wars yet. This would make sense in a proper war during Age III or later.

Well regardless my character is still angry with Bowser and his freinds and wants to take it out on them and their neighbors, and regardles of nations my character has a personal vandeta with them and the people around which they live, and will do anything to cause them misfortune.

Bowser isn't a character.


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