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Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
06-03-2012, 05:33,
Post: #101
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:12)Leech Wrote: We're trying to unite. It only just started today, give us a break. But, this isn't just about the attacks, Gecko. It's about the rules. I guess nobody's look at the list of broken rules from today yet:
Raiding without Permission multiple times
Burning of items
Minor grief
Metagaming
Assisting an alt of someone who is permabanned

If you guys actually rebute these points this thread can go somewhere

Rule 1.1, the mods are always right

06-03-2012, 05:35,
Post: #102
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:32)Cell Wrote: Gecko, I know you said for only them to stay in this thread.

First of all, I want them to know that i'm not ranting, nor trying to get them banned for being complete douches, but rather for the rules, and gameplay. Personally, they have ruined the game for me. When i'm on the computer, i'm constantly looking for another game to play, something to pass the time rather than Minecraft. For the past two weeks I have had to hide in a hole due to me being singled out by Solitude as their number one enemy, and KOS'd on sight.

Organizing that army you speak of? Not as easy as you would think. As already said more than enough player have quit the server due to the antics of the Solitude people, and those that are still here, and stating the rules and as to why they should be banned, are those that still have hope, and still want to play the server. I want to play the server, but I don't have an option. I sit in a hole, and do nothing. I don't have a choice.

They bring the conflict that RP needs to the server? I beg to differ. Since Revamped has started, very little RP has taken place without conflict due to them. Little community projects take place, heck, I would be scared to even try to organize a community project in the fact that they would show up and kill. Don't say the "Its your fault for not being prepared, defend yourself" crap. Some of us have things to do outside of this game, work, school, and family matters. We cant be on all day unlike the majority of those in Solitude. I would love to see them gone, just to get some real RP in the server. Nearly every RP interaction over the past month has been to either organize a resistance group, or to try to make a peace treaty.

Minecraft is just a game. All of us know that, and you know what I like most in games? To enjoy them. I'm not going to sit here all day and play QWOP when it makes me want to rage. I like to have some enjoyment in the games I play, when I play them. Not a fear of hopping online to see the town you are living in being torn apart in front of your eyes, and then you murdered seconds later.

Their so called "Dictator" RP? Bull. Its just a reason for them to attack someone. They can sit there and demand a huge amount of Diamonds, Iron, or Gold that cannot be satisfied by any player at this point of time. When they demand these items for a peace treaty, they know they are going to get a firm "No.". Upon hearing this? RP reason to not have a peace treaty and to fulfill there oh so desire to PvP endlessly.

Burning of the items? Huge dick move in my case. If its just a game, why should they play it so hardcore? Isn't the point of raiding to steal and bail? What is the point of stealing anymore if you cannot carry anymore? Therefore, why should that raid continue? Oh but no, they are doing it so you wont get the items. They shouldn't even be messing with the items if they got what they came for, and their inventory is full. But yet they still run around the town for who knows how long reeking havoc.

Excuse my language, but get your god damn facts straight. You are a long time friend of mine Gecko, and I hate saying that to you. Everyone is biased one way or another, but the facts are against them Gecko, and its time for action to be taken against them. Oh, and your comment on being a direct attack of their raiding? You have experienced nothing until you are in my situation, or in Bowser's. I speak as a prime target of them, and one of that has his gameplay ruined.

Love you Gecko, but you are wrong.

I love you cell SoMuchWin


06-03-2012, 05:36,
Post: #103
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:24)CapBubba Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 05:04)geckosquid Wrote: All right, everyone. Stop. Just stop.

Firstly, I want everyone except for Riskae and the Solitudians to leave this thread. This is getting way out of control. You're hurling shit at each other and we have gotten absolutely nowhere since the first post in 8 whole pages.

I'm seriously disappointed in this community right now. What should have been a discussion immediately regressed into whining banter. I'm talking to almost everyone in this thread when I say this.

The citizens of Solitude realize something that many others apparently don't: this is just a game. We can fight each other, and we can appeal to ban each other when things go awry, but at the end of the day, will dying in Minecraft affect your actual lives whatsoever? The answer, for the less intellectually inclined among us, is a resounding no, no, no.

It has been proven throughout human history that the best way to be united and strong is to have someone to aggress on; a common enemy. Solitude is providing you guys with something that you refuse to appreciate: A cause. If their need for power angers you, channel that into your character, bolster your forces, and do your damn best to beat the shit out of them. What enemy is more perfect than one who wants the world to kneel before them in worship? If we permanently banned people for minor acts of metagaming and slight breaks of rules, we would have almost nobody on the server. Instead of spending your energy on trying to get them banned, stock up on resources and fight back. And finally, for the sake of everything good in this world, stop whining.

Thank you for your consideration.

I'm sorry that I have not left this thread Gecko, but it us impossible for me to do so after this comment.

A common enemy is a group or individual who makes people love to hate them. They make a character that puts their fingers in everyone's pie and will do whatever they want to make them be hated.

What they do NOT do is cause issues repeatedly that require multiple bans, warnings, and disciplinary action and makes it so everyone simply hates them. The entire community rose up to support action against this group because they have issues with them. Whether or not they are in the right is not the issue, but they are simply an issue for the server.

And to add ooh issues to influence ic actions is straight metagaming. The simple fact that you proffered that suggestion made me disappointed.

I have no stance on this argument, because I have not been directly affected, but there are times when a Devils Advocate is needed, else an issue will never be resolved.

What I'm saying is that these people are taking the anger out of their characters and putting it into themselves. That needs to be reversed. Also, they do not require multiple bans, warnings, and disciplinary action. After they were banned for metagaming, they immediately straightened themselves out.

Love,
Gecko
06-03-2012, 05:37,
Post: #104
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
Cell, they have legitimate RP reason to hate your character, and they hardly hunt you down. Avoiding them doesn't mean you have to hide in a hole.

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06-03-2012, 05:37,
Post: #105
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:37)Crashlander04 Wrote: Cell, they have legitimate RP reason to hate your character, and they hardly hunt you down. Avoiding them doesn't mean you have to hide in a hole.

I've already been over this with you, and many others. I said that as someone who has had his gameplay ruined, not because their RP reasoning was bogus.
06-03-2012, 05:39,
Post: #106
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:33)Pwol Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 05:12)Leech Wrote: We're trying to unite. It only just started today, give us a break. But, this isn't just about the attacks, Gecko. It's about the rules. I guess nobody's look at the list of broken rules from today yet:
Raiding without Permission multiple times
Burning of items
Minor grief
Metagaming
Assisting an alt of someone who is permabanned

If you guys actually rebute these points this thread can go somewhere

Rule 1.1, the mods are always right

Did I ever say he wasn't?

Leech: Moderating the wiki for over 75 years
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06-03-2012, 05:42,
Post: #107
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:32)Cell Wrote: Gecko, I know you said for only them to stay in this thread.

First of all, I want them to know that i'm not ranting, nor trying to get them banned for being complete douches, but rather for the rules, and gameplay. Personally, they have ruined the game for me. When i'm on the computer, i'm constantly looking for another game to play, something to pass the time rather than Minecraft. For the past two weeks I have had to hide in a hole due to me being singled out by Solitude as their number one enemy, and KOS'd on sight.

Organizing that army you speak of? Not as easy as you would think. As already said more than enough player have quit the server due to the antics of the Solitude people, and those that are still here, and stating the rules and as to why they should be banned, are those that still have hope, and still want to play the server. I want to play the server, but I don't have an option. I sit in a hole, and do nothing. I don't have a choice.

They bring the conflict that RP needs to the server? I beg to differ. Since Revamped has started, very little RP has taken place without conflict due to them. Little community projects take place, heck, I would be scared to even try to organize a community project in the fact that they would show up and kill. Don't say the "Its your fault for not being prepared, defend yourself" crap. Some of us have things to do outside of this game, work, school, and family matters. We cant be on all day unlike the majority of those in Solitude. I would love to see them gone, just to get some real RP in the server. Nearly every RP interaction over the past month has been to either organize a resistance group, or to try to make a peace treaty.

Minecraft is just a game. All of us know that, and you know what I like most in games? To enjoy them. I'm not going to sit here all day and play QWOP when it makes me want to rage. I like to have some enjoyment in the games I play, when I play them. Not a fear of hopping online to see the town you are living in being torn apart in front of your eyes, and then you murdered seconds later.

Their so called "Dictator" RP? Bull. Its just a reason for them to attack someone. They can sit there and demand a huge amount of Diamonds, Iron, or Gold that cannot be satisfied by any player at this point of time. When they demand these items for a peace treaty, they know they are going to get a firm "No.". Upon hearing this? RP reason to not have a peace treaty and to fulfill there oh so desire to PvP endlessly.

Burning of the items? Huge dick move in my case. If its just a game, why should they play it so hardcore? Isn't the point of raiding to steal and bail? What is the point of stealing anymore if you cannot carry anymore? Therefore, why should that raid continue? Oh but no, they are doing it so you wont get the items. They shouldn't even be messing with the items if they got what they came for, and their inventory is full. But yet they still run around the town for who knows how long reeking havoc.

Excuse my language, but get your god damn facts straight. You are a long time friend of mine Gecko, and I hate saying that to you. Everyone is biased one way or another, but the facts are against them Gecko, and its time for action to be taken against them. Oh, and your comment on being a direct attack of their raiding? You have experienced nothing until you are in my situation, or in Bowser's. I speak as a prime target of them, and one of that has his gameplay ruined.

Love you Gecko, but you are wrong.

Yes, hello Mr.Cell but rule 1.1 states the mods are always right. An I mistaken?
06-03-2012, 05:42,
Post: #108
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:42)Pwol Wrote: Yes, hello Mr.Cell but rule 1.1 states the mods are always right. An I mistaken?

You are not, but I have still have room to argue. Right or wrong.
06-03-2012, 05:42,
Post: #109
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 05:36)geckosquid Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 05:24)CapBubba Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 05:04)geckosquid Wrote: All right, everyone. Stop. Just stop.

Firstly, I want everyone except for Riskae and the Solitudians to leave this thread. This is getting way out of control. You're hurling shit at each other and we have gotten absolutely nowhere since the first post in 8 whole pages.

I'm seriously disappointed in this community right now. What should have been a discussion immediately regressed into whining banter. I'm talking to almost everyone in this thread when I say this.

The citizens of Solitude realize something that many others apparently don't: this is just a game. We can fight each other, and we can appeal to ban each other when things go awry, but at the end of the day, will dying in Minecraft affect your actual lives whatsoever? The answer, for the less intellectually inclined among us, is a resounding no, no, no.

It has been proven throughout human history that the best way to be united and strong is to have someone to aggress on; a common enemy. Solitude is providing you guys with something that you refuse to appreciate: A cause. If their need for power angers you, channel that into your character, bolster your forces, and do your damn best to beat the shit out of them. What enemy is more perfect than one who wants the world to kneel before them in worship? If we permanently banned people for minor acts of metagaming and slight breaks of rules, we would have almost nobody on the server. Instead of spending your energy on trying to get them banned, stock up on resources and fight back. And finally, for the sake of everything good in this world, stop whining.

Thank you for your consideration.

I'm sorry that I have not left this thread Gecko, but it us impossible for me to do so after this comment.

A common enemy is a group or individual who makes people love to hate them. They make a character that puts their fingers in everyone's pie and will do whatever they want to make them be hated.

What they do NOT do is cause issues repeatedly that require multiple bans, warnings, and disciplinary action and makes it so everyone simply hates them. The entire community rose up to support action against this group because they have issues with them. Whether or not they are in the right is not the issue, but they are simply an issue for the server.

And to add ooh issues to influence ic actions is straight metagaming. The simple fact that you proffered that suggestion made me disappointed.

I have no stance on this argument, because I have not been directly affected, but there are times when a Devils Advocate is needed, else an issue will never be resolved.

What I'm saying is that these people are taking the anger out of their characters and putting it into themselves. That needs to be reversed. Also, they do not require multiple bans, warnings, and disciplinary action. After they were banned for metagaming, they immediately straightened themselves out.

Straightened themselves out, I don't know who the hell your talking about. Do you see the dates in those bans, do you not realize that that is exactly the same stuff they are still doing. They even go as far as to say they were right in having done such.

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06-03-2012, 05:42,
Post: #110
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
Griefer- Wikipedia Wrote:A griefer is a player in a multiplayer video game who deliberately irritates and harasses other players.

This is all NLewis and Pwolbart have done in their history here. That and have a trading stand for 2 weeks, before burning it down with the rest of the town. So, why are they still here? They are the definition of griefing. If I could, this would be what Wikipedia would have for the definition of griefer
Griefer- Wikipedia Wrote:NLewis and Pwolbart

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