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Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
06-03-2012, 16:02, (This post was last modified: 06-03-2012, 16:02 by oranges44.)
Post: #181
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
Like to add that I bought a whole 3 stacks of diamond from Riskae's shop chest , probably has a ton in there.
Therefore it would be stupid to contemplate the whole "We're defenseless argument".
06-03-2012, 16:04, (This post was last modified: 06-03-2012, 16:04 by Ian25.)
Post: #182
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 15:58)Leech Wrote: I've been killed time after time where I'm completely unarmed. Just because we've had a few times were we've been armed doesn't mean that it was the majority of the times.
Maybe you should raid like normal people and try to find the stuff with the slightest amount of stealth. You are clearly doing it wrong, I've gone through your stuff while unarmed while you guys were unarmed, certainly you can reverse the situation.
That second part is false and you know it.

Almost everytime we've raided I have seen you come at us just to punch us until you can tell bowser or riskae on skype to get over here to kill us. I will kil 99 times out of 100 anybody who's running at me while on a raid.

Raid like 'normal people'? I didn't know we were racially/ethnically lower than 'normal people'.
You mean running in to solitude with nothing, punching some chickens to death, and then grabbing whatever saplings we have in a few scattered chests? Oh boy, we really should learn from the master 'normal person' here!

I'm not going to repeat myself on the last one.
06-03-2012, 16:04,
Post: #183
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

Crash a ton of glass, smoothstone, ect has been removed from my town on many occasions and even wood becomes not easily replaceable when they will kill you unprovoked with no reason for trying to cut wood. And if you failed to read the first post and think I am trying to get them banned for a misplaced block or two then you need to quit arguing here as your are merely causing me to repeat myself over and over again. Crash you aren't in there town you know nothing about the raids, we had a peace treaty you can see it clearly listed in post 1, (surprise surprise have to repeat myself again) and they were not attacked by us ever during that time but still here we are again. This is not just about my town, lots of others are involved here, I do however love how you keep trying to draw the conversation back solely to my town to try and make it look like that's all they did.

TLGrinR:
Read the first post and all posts by others preceding that before trying to argue because your points have probably already been addressed.

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06-03-2012, 16:08,
Post: #184
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 16:04)Riskae Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

Crash a ton of glass, smoothstone, ect has been removed from my town on many occasions and even wood becomes not easily replaceable when they will kill you unprovoked with no reason for trying to cut wood. And if you failed to read the first post and think I am trying to get them banned for a misplaced block or two then you need to quit arguing here as your are merely causing me to repeat myself over and over again. Crash you aren't in there town you know nothing about the raids, we had a peace treaty you can see it clearly listed in post 1, (surprise surprise have to repeat myself again) and they were not attacked by us ever during that time but still here we are again. This is not just about my town, lots of others are involved here, I do however love how you keep trying to draw the conversation back solely to my town to try and make it look like that's all they did.

TLGrinR:
Read the first post and all posts by others preceding that before trying to argue because your points have probably already been addressed.

Chopping down a tree takes less than 30 seconds... you're pathetic. He actually knows a lot more than you Riskae.

TLGrinR
The past 19 pages have been 99% full of crap.
06-03-2012, 16:10, (This post was last modified: 06-03-2012, 16:11 by Leech.)
Post: #185
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

You really don't get it, do you. We have many players. Most of them are too fucking tired of the antics of Solitude to even want to play the game anymore. I can't RP anymore, because they make RP a glorified form of harassment. As far as the raids yesterday, the way they came in made it clear they weren't there. Lucky for them, Giratina was on his alt. And, yesterday they burned Godfrey's items, which Pwolbart was previously warned about, raided without permission a plethora of times, and used Jezox, the alt of Giratina, to their advantage. Here's a set of messages I got on Skype just now:

[9:56:55 AM] ----: Ugh
[9:58:07 AM] ----: Kiwike ain't fun anymore man
[9:59:37 AM] ----: I should leave
[10:01:04 AM] Me: Why not back us? I'm sure we can get something done
[10:02:24 AM] ----: There's no way to beat them
[10:02:30 AM] ----: Especially not in age 1
[10:03:06 AM] ----: I don't see the purpose of being in a minecraft server in which I should have fun without having fun you know
[10:04:19 AM] ----: Kiwike used to be the shit

The person in these messages doesn't want to be named in fear of being raided more. But, I can tell you that they are a prominent member of the community. Look at what's happened to his experience. And it's not just him. it's mine, it's the members of Eon and Luca and Ageos, of the Elves and the UR and many more. If the members of Solitude have a reason to be here that isn't flame and pillage, well you better fucking shove it in my face, because I've never seen it. And with the level of warmongering they do, they'd be better off on a PvP server, not Kiwike.
(06-03-2012, 16:08)Ian25 Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 16:04)Riskae Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

Crash a ton of glass, smoothstone, ect has been removed from my town on many occasions and even wood becomes not easily replaceable when they will kill you unprovoked with no reason for trying to cut wood. And if you failed to read the first post and think I am trying to get them banned for a misplaced block or two then you need to quit arguing here as your are merely causing me to repeat myself over and over again. Crash you aren't in there town you know nothing about the raids, we had a peace treaty you can see it clearly listed in post 1, (surprise surprise have to repeat myself again) and they were not attacked by us ever during that time but still here we are again. This is not just about my town, lots of others are involved here, I do however love how you keep trying to draw the conversation back solely to my town to try and make it look like that's all they did.

TLGrinR:
Read the first post and all posts by others preceding that before trying to argue because your points have probably already been addressed.

Chopping down a tree takes less than 30 seconds... you're pathetic. He actually knows a lot more than you Riskae.

TLGrinR
The past 19 pages have been 99% full of crap.

Yep. And it's all yours

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06-03-2012, 16:14, (This post was last modified: 06-03-2012, 16:18 by Ian25.)
Post: #186
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 16:10)Leech Wrote: Yep. And it's all yours

I only started talking in the last pages, the first like 15 pages was just you guys agreeing with yourselves.
(06-03-2012, 16:10)Leech Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

You really don't get it, do you. We have many players. Most of them are too fucking tired of the antics of Solitude to even want to play the game anymore. I can't RP anymore, because they make RP a glorified form of harassment. As far as the raids yesterday, the way they came in made it clear they weren't there. Lucky for them, Giratina was on his alt. And, yesterday they burned Godfrey's items, which Pwolbart was previously warned about, raided without permission a plethora of times, and used Jezox, the alt of Giratina, to their advantage. Here's a set of messages I got on Skype just now:

[9:56:55 AM] ----: Ugh
[9:58:07 AM] ----: Kiwike ain't fun anymore man
[9:59:37 AM] ----: I should leave
[10:01:04 AM] Me: Why not back us? I'm sure we can get something done
[10:02:24 AM] ----: There's no way to beat them
[10:02:30 AM] ----: Especially not in age 1
[10:03:06 AM] ----: I don't see the purpose of being in a minecraft server in which I should have fun without having fun you know
[10:04:19 AM] ----: Kiwike used to be the shit

The person in these messages doesn't want to be named in fear of being raided more. But, I can tell you that they are a prominent member of the community. Look at what's happened to his experience. And it's not just him. it's mine, it's the members of Eon and Luca and Ageos, of the Elves and the UR and many more. If the members of Solitude have a reason to be here that isn't flame and pillage, well you better fucking shove it in my face, because I've never seen it. And with the level of warmongering they do, they'd be better off on a PvP server, not Kiwike.

Giratina would like to say:

First I would like to address you implying I was their secret weapon the whole time , No. I acted alone and played as a nomad. I did not tell them anything to give them the upper - hand so stop making stupid reasons to make them look worse and myself as a matter of fact. I just wanted to casually play , I did not once 'Raid with them' I admit to theft but that theft was done in a very subtle manner in which not once was I caught in the process (Response to your raid like normal people)
Secondly I'd like to tell you that the skype conversation you got seems like a lot of crap. "In fear of being raided? What is solitude? A dictatorship? A town that rules the world? Stop making up crap because that is pathetic. Solitude don't pick on people who go against them on forums.
06-03-2012, 16:19,
Post: #187
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 15:47)Leech Wrote: Members of Solitude, nobody enjoys the wars you are pulling us into on a regular basis, except for yourselves. Your tactics of attacking unarmed people in towns rather than armed people in the field of battle is appalling, and is most certainly despised by most people. I've had many friends say "Tell me when the war is over or when they're banned, because I can't take their shit anymore." Your wars cause production (and enjoyment of the game) to come to a standstill. I remember attempting to build my walls, when you guys came time after time, killing me, with nothing on me other than a couple stacks of stone slab. I doubt you had a use for it. The only reason you had to kill me was that I was there, and soon I knew I couldn't build anymore, until something changed. It was a sickening feeling, knowing I couldn't build in a building game. And many people had the same problems. Look at the Elves. They were so tired of your raids, they abandoned their town to go into hiding. People poured their hearts into that, and it was yanked away from them by you. Simply because you clearly prefer RP over PvP. There's a balance between RP and PvP. Well, you clearly ran off of the scales to go kill somebody, because balanced, you are not. You've only made peace with the people Crash told you to make peace with, and their not even at peace with you anymore. You're practically at war with everyone. Your contribution to the server, is war. That's all you've brought. War, and the suffering of those you declare war on. You ask for people to fight back, but the reason they can't is because you demoralize their citizens to the point of not wanting to play anymore. And, with that happening, why should you be here? Because you can act the "villain?" You're gonna need a hell of a lot more than that to compensate what you've done. In recap: You've done little more than warmonger, you warmonger in a way that makes people want to leave, and you are wrecking player experience.

I'm sorry that this probably doesn't make sense, I'm dealing with little sleep and I'm a bit out of it due to food posioning

Leech, personally I think that people should learn to fight back. If you can’t fight back at the current moment, go into hiding for a bit, and then stock up on supplies, potions, diamond, etc. If you can’t fight back, there is no reason to get us banned; we are within perfect RP reason. If our peace negotiations are not meeting your standards, get better at negotiating, or fight back and become a power in the world of Kiwike. People, this is not hard, just because you can’t fight back does not mean you should get us banned for any reason at all. It’s just plain stupid. I don’t know if anyone notices, but the server only has maybe 7-10 people on at a time, which is honestly sad. We are the only people keeping the server alive because nothing happens anymore except raids. At the Solitude Peace Summit, there were 40 people on the server at that point. Maybe when age 2 rolls around there might be what, 15? Then we have the minor griefs. I don’t see why you guys honestly care; you are just looking for another reason to get us banned. We are on the run, so we break through a wall, and come fix it later. I remember there was a rule about griefing, it was something about barricades and how if they are destroyed it is not grief. I am pretty sure that walls are a barricade, are they not? Otherwise, the walls for all towns in Cora’s nation only have walls for decoration, because when we break through them (only about 2-6 blocks) it is grief. How many people have seen the video of the Solitude Peace Summit? Yotta breaks glass, and other blocks to escape the building, but does he come back and replace them? No, because the walls of the building have acted as a barricade to him, allowing him to destroy them to escape. Personally, I see no reason to have us banned for any reason, unless destroying a couple of blocks is worth a perma- ban.
06-03-2012, 16:24, (This post was last modified: 06-03-2012, 16:25 by Pwol.)
Post: #188
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 16:10)Leech Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

You really don't get it, do you. We have many players. Most of them are too fucking tired of the antics of Solitude to even want to play the game anymore. I can't RP anymore, because they make RP a glorified form of harassment. As far as the raids yesterday, the way they came in made it clear they weren't there. Lucky for them, Giratina was on his alt. And, yesterday they burned Godfrey's items, which Pwolbart was previously warned about, raided without permission a plethora of times, and used Jezox, the alt of Giratina, to their advantage. Here's a set of messages I got on Skype just now:

[9:56:55 AM] ----: Ugh
[9:58:07 AM] ----: Kiwike ain't fun anymore man
[9:59:37 AM] ----: I should leave
[10:01:04 AM] Me: Why not back us? I'm sure we can get something done
[10:02:24 AM] ----: There's no way to beat them
[10:02:30 AM] ----: Especially not in age 1
[10:03:06 AM] ----: I don't see the purpose of being in a minecraft server in which I should have fun without having fun you know
[10:04:19 AM] ----: Kiwike used to be the shit

The person in these messages doesn't want to be named in fear of being raided more. But, I can tell you that they are a prominent member of the community. Look at what's happened to his experience. And it's not just him. it's mine, it's the members of Eon and Luca and Ageos, of the Elves and the UR and many more. If the members of Solitude have a reason to be here that isn't flame and pillage, well you better fucking shove it in my face, because I've never seen it. And with the level of warmongering they do, they'd be better off on a PvP server, not Kiwike.
(06-03-2012, 16:08)Ian25 Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 16:04)Riskae Wrote:
(06-03-2012, 15:54)Crashlander04 Wrote: I'm not going to say raids should be forced upon people, or their resources should go to the most active PvPers on the server. However, if you are trying to ban Lewis and Pwol just because their characters are violent and greedy, that's the wrong reason. To say that their character ruins RP through their warmongering is simply pathetic.

Nobody ever just said, oh, Hitler is being a dick - lets just not let him play with us.

The other nations had three general options:
- surrender, be abused, but less casualties and more freedom (in the case of Denmark)
- plant your feet, team up, fight back, put an end to his rule by returning the kickass (England, USA, Russia)
- whine and bitch a lot because you can't fight worth crap (France)
(may not be utterly historically accurate, but it's a good metaphor)

Promethia (with several prominent exceptions) is generally being France right now.

The accusations of constant raiding is a matter of opinion to most extents, if you say you don't have time to build up between raids of their you really can't be working that hard. It takes an average of a half hour to mine iron armour for 4 people, and Riskae has enough diamonds stocked up in his shops. You aren't poor, or utterly hopeless - stop fooling yourselves.

Promethia supposedly has over 40 civilians - if you can honestly tell me that a group of five players can raid this massive nation to the point of having to ban then, you may want to re-access the player base you have to begin with.

In direction towards raiding without permission - the raids yesterday were based off of the listening in on an apparent plot against Solitude. If breaking into and killing the enemy leaders plotting against you doesn't count as a fitting RP/PvP situation, I really don't know what does. They were raided in return by those they killed, retaliated, and were raided several times more by individuals from Promethia, causing more raids. Sounds pretty justified to me.

For the people complaining about 'continuous minor grief', menial blocks here and there mean nothing. If it was glowstone, or glass, or something not-instantly replaceable with the most minute amount of effort it would be different - but honestly trying to remove somebody from the server permanently for it is pathetic.

Crash a ton of glass, smoothstone, ect has been removed from my town on many occasions and even wood becomes not easily replaceable when they will kill you unprovoked with no reason for trying to cut wood. And if you failed to read the first post and think I am trying to get them banned for a misplaced block or two then you need to quit arguing here as your are merely causing me to repeat myself over and over again. Crash you aren't in there town you know nothing about the raids, we had a peace treaty you can see it clearly listed in post 1, (surprise surprise have to repeat myself again) and they were not attacked by us ever during that time but still here we are again. This is not just about my town, lots of others are involved here, I do however love how you keep trying to draw the conversation back solely to my town to try and make it look like that's all they did.

TLGrinR:
Read the first post and all posts by others preceding that before trying to argue because your points have probably already been addressed.

Chopping down a tree takes less than 30 seconds... you're pathetic. He actually knows a lot more than you Riskae.

TLGrinR
The past 19 pages have been 99% full of crap.

Yep. And it's all yours

Ummmm leech, I dont recall Saera warning me about burning items. I didint even know burning items was against the rules. And also Leech look what I found on skype!

[1:56:55 PM] ----: Ugh
[1:58:01 PM] ----: I love having Solitude raid, so much pvp goodness
[2:01:07 PM] ----: I know right, its amazing, I love this server so much!
[2:03:42 PM] ----: I have a really good idea, we should actually spend half an hour get armor and fight back!
[2:05:38 PM] ----: omg, thats a great idea, I cant wait to have some fun
[2:07:36 PM] ----: This server has became so much more fun with these wars!
[2:08:19 PM] ----: Kiwike is the shit!

Crazy I know, looks like people like Solitude after all LOL
06-03-2012, 16:28,
Post: #189
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
You threw our items into a lake, hoping I wouldn't notice so that they would despawn. Saera warned you. And, I know he wont want me to say it, but it was Crazy. Crazylol5 said that. You have made a moderator tired of playing Kiwike. Good fucking going

Leech: Moderating the wiki for over 75 years
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06-03-2012, 16:29,
Post: #190
RE: Ban Request: Nlewis, Pwolbart, Connor and Co
(06-03-2012, 16:28)Leech Wrote: You threw our items into a lake, hoping I wouldn't notice so that they would despawn. Saera warned you. And, I know he wont want me to say it, but it was Crazy. Crazylol5 said that. You have made a moderator tired of playing Kiwike. Good fucking going

Actually bowser ran into a lake while I was trying to kill him.


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