Some Griefing.

~~floof09~~ · 06-30-2012, 00:43,

To begin with we had our iron blocks ripped from the kiwike ships engines. I understand iron blocks are griefable but this is a actual physical thing for use on the kiwike ship. I was told by android this was fine however so I will move on to the other things.

Lava was placed on Gunthers island killing all his animals and causing a mess. He cleaned it up, however he put a sign up where the lava source block was so it should be able to be block checked.

One of our brewing stands was removed in our nether garden area thing. As well as all the nether wart was taken out and not replanted.

Gunther had a mushroom farm in which all of the mushrooms were removed and not replanted.

There are no mods on right now so it would be much appreciated if someone could check this out. Thanks in advance!

Gunther · 06-30-2012, 00:46,

Clarifications:
One single netherwart of some dozen was replanted.
Some animals survived, but all three golems that were on patrol are missing, presumed dead.

sethd13 · (08-21-2012, 03:16)

The lava was me and was an accident but i removed the source block right?

(06-30-2012, 00:46)Gunther Wrote: but all three golems that were on patrol are missing, presumed dead.

I dont know if entities have protection.

astv25 · 06-30-2012, 00:52,

Golems cost 4 iron blocks so they damn well better.

Gunther · 06-30-2012, 00:53,

(06-30-2012, 00:46)sethd13 Wrote: The lava was me and was an accident but i removed the source block right?

Lava is buggy so that even if you remove the source it still replicates and flows. You have to stamp it all out. I also have to wonder what you were doing to cause such an accident, but that's another matter.

I suppose it's up to the mods to decide if the golems' value offset their mob status.

~~floof09~~ · (This post was last modified: 06-30-2012, 00:57 by floof09.)

(06-30-2012, 00:46)sethd13 Wrote: The lava was me and was an accident but i removed the source block right?

(06-30-2012, 00:46)Gunther Wrote: but all three golems that were on patrol are missing, presumed dead.

I dont know if entities have protection.

Im not exactly sure how one accidentally places lava, especially where all the animals are but il trust you on this one.

This still doesn't explain the farms griefed without replanting. And they stole the farm supplies too so no we can not just replant it and get on with our lives. Nether wart is pretty hard to come by as well.

And I still don't think the griefing of the iron blocks in the kiwike ships is okay :/. Why would the server have a plug in that allows engines only to say that your engines can be griefed. Android gave us our blocks back though so im not complaining.

EDIT: And it does not explain the griefed alchemy stand either. Thats another mystery unsolved.

sethd13 · (08-21-2012, 03:16)

Crops are allowed to be taken and if one was left you should be thankful. Iron blocks are are iron blocks you shouldn't have left them walking around. Stealing is legal and you can take the engines off when you want. They are a luxury not necessity.

Have no idea on the stand though :/

Gunther · (This post was last modified: 06-30-2012, 01:55 by Gunther.)

The ways the rules are written indicates that taking from farms is allowed, but that they cannot be sabotaged. Wheat is to be replanted, stalks kept in order, sugar cane left to regrow.
Nothing is explicitly stated about mushrooms, sure, but the spirit of the rules would indicate that some be left to regrow the plot, especially considering how valuable and difficult to cultivate netherwart is.
As far as that goes, however, it is an official's final decision.

sethd13 · (08-21-2012, 03:16)

(06-30-2012, 01:55)Gunther Wrote: The ways the rules are written indicates that taking from farms is allowed, but that they cannot be sabotaged. Wheat is to be replanted, stalks kept in order, sugar cane left to regrow.

None of this is actually true it is fully acceptable to take and not replant. The only exception is the base of sugercane.

Gunther · (This post was last modified: 06-30-2012, 02:18 by Gunther.)

- Wheat (Please do replant it if you have the time)
- Melons, pumpkins (only if next to a stem)
- Reeds (except for the bottom source from which the reeds grow)
--from rules 2.2) Exceptions

I would see no reason why so thorough a griefer wouldn't have the time, and stalks themselves are never exempted. None of these are tampered with, but the entire topic was put on the table, it seems. And as I said on the subject of mushrooms, it was an argument on the spirit of the rules. My hope is that the mods consider that angle. Mushrooms are a generally finite resource and difficult to cultivate. The ones stolen were clearly in an area intended solely for farming.
EDIT: And it never says one can steal planted mushrooms anyway, or netherwart.