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Non-rp killing - broader rules clarification and discussion requested
05-03-2012, 00:14, (This post was last modified: 05-03-2012, 00:24 by Cerce.)
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RE: Non-rp killing - broader rules clarification and discussion requested
(05-02-2012, 22:41)Pwol Wrote: lol

3.1 - Dont see how I had an unfair advantage, seems like we both had armor, in fact his happened to be enchanted

4 - He was in the territory of an enemy I was raiding, and posed a threat

5 - Like I said I was raiding, no time to stop and say "Excuse me sir, you are in enemy territory, whilst im raiding, time to die"

7.2 - What Metagaming seriously, give me a break.....

7.3 - Suspicious Like stated I am on a raid, plenty of RP.

My explanation as to how these are inefficient excuses:

1.2 wasn't even explained away - seems like he knows he was in the wrong here.

3.1 - If you have a sword, and your enemy has a sword, yet you know for a fact that that person is required both by server and personal morals and rules to stop and talk before entering combat, and you break both personal and server rules by attacking without proper, in-depth roleplay - not this 'lulz I wuz on a raid 2 kill pplz' crap. In real life, and in most roleplays, and even on PvP servers that do not participate whatsoever in roleplay raid in a matter of hit-and-run attacks, staying out of sight to all possible, going in, getting what is needed, and getting out. Therefore, you were not participating in a raid - you were participating in mass slaughter of your enemies.

4/7 - So - you are saying that if I was in the nether looking for a blaze rod, and I happened to stop by a portal controlled by your enemy, I am fair game to kill without roleplay whatsoever, not even 'Die, cur!' (which takes about less than two seconds for a practiced typist)? And, considering you had enough time to stop and eat a 4-course meal, I'm pretty sure you could have at least said 'Hi. I don't like you. Die now.' - which is poor roleplay regardless of how much time you have.

7.2- Metagaming is the use of OoC information within a roleplay. If you knew that Finn didn't like you OoC, and you personally did not like him IC, that gives no reason nor credence to the actions of your character. Your character had no reason to attack someone who had not made a move towards them, nor had offended them in the past, nor had proclaimed an intent to harm you, nor had even drawn a sword. You and your character are two completely different entities.

7.3 - You abused the rule of roleplaying by taking advantage of Finn's attempt at typing a message in a roleplay, and by killing someone who had no reason to believe that you would kill them within the roleplay. You also gave no roleplay opportunity for Finn to respond to your actions, therefore you forced him into a situation that could not be negotiated, and imposed on him your 'roleplay' without his consent. This is not to say that you can respond back by saying 'Oh, I can ignore his roleplay because he doesn't have my consent' - as a matter of fact, as long as he isn't imposing that you MUST let him win within the roleplay, he isn't powergaming - but you, however, did roleplay in a way that forced him to let you win, seeing as how it would be nearly impossible to kill someone that attacks while someone else is typing a rather large message.

"One can concentrate so closely on the words of a sentence that one thereby misses the meaning. As can happen in any area of life. You must never lose focus on the larger landscape."


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RE: Non-rp killing - broader rules clarification and discussion requested - by Cerce - 05-03-2012, 00:14

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