The Future

[bvcxzmn]

Hi All.

Without wanting to step out of place or on the toes of Yotto et al, I am concerned about Kiwike continuing, and thought perhaps we should have an open debate about the future. Hopefully, not starting a troll or flame war either.


I think I turned up when the server "reboot" was quite fresh, which I think also happened to coincide with half-term in the UK for the younger people. There were normally always a handful of people on, with peak numbers of around 20.

However, since the opening week, for the last 1.5 weeks kiwike has been a ghost server. At most, I have seen two others on at the same time, but normally when I turn up there is no-one. It's like playing single player! I hang around for some time doing stuff - and I feel like its my own private world.

Clearly, this not sustainable and so I am asking the impertinent question of what's going to happen and / or be done about it.

Firstly, should I continue to invest time mining and building in this world? Or am I clocking up a lot of effort, only for the server to be turned off and the world and my creations lost? Does anyone here feel the server will continue?

Secondly, the question is WHY is the server so empty?

Obviously, diminishing numbers are self perpetuating. When someone logs on to find only 1 other, they log off straight away. This means that numbers do not generally build up during any session, and the place stays deserted.

What attracted me to Kiwike when I stumbled on it was that it was PvP, but with some sensible constraints on griefing, so it was not an anarchy server which would rapidly lead to rage quit. Whilst searching for a server, most seemed to be strictly PvE and no PvP, which begged the question to me - what was the point in playing online? So, KiWike seemed like a fun thing to try.

I was never convinced by the OP 'town' system and the forming of small groups of people - but I was sticking with it to see where it went. However, it seems that others do not know or care about Kiwike, and those that have discovered it do not like it enough to come back to it.

I wonder if the following is informative about where the server is going:
My wife's co-presenter teenage son is a MC addict (and following his school report will be curtailed a bit!). When I directed him towards Kiwike he was dismissive, because it wasn't proper "factions" - and towns as I described them were just too limiting to be of interest. Plus, it was also vanilla, so nothing special there either. So, he continues on other servers.

Perhaps changing features / vanilla-ness of the server should be debated if numbers are to be attracted??

At the moment, Kiwike is supposed to be controlled PvP. And in that regard it has failed atm - as there is never anyone on to talk to, let alone fight / stalk / raid etc.

Thoughts and comments are welcome.

It's pretty much ignorance which has lead to this decline in interest , when someone offers a suggestion it's almost quickly scraped up because "people don't like it" when in fact it is few among many. The server admins have made no innovation on the "fight / stalk / raid etc" part which interests the playerbase of the server and as a result people don't play. We were promised interactive fighting with goals and what not , and what do we get? Chests on pigs. Clearly the mindset of the admins and mods isn't correct and need to stop being so narrowminded. I'm sure if the admins and mods were open about the different types of players on the server and their interests we would see a lot more of good things and activity brought to the server. The way I see it , It's not even supported as a strict 'PVP' server. Considering there's nothing which basis is defined by raiding , towns , events and other things which could be implemented however are not. Back in 2.0 Android told me that they'd worked out a better way for raiding , when I pointed out how dull the protection worked and how generally stupid it was. Android agreed with me and told me they'd worked out a plan to solve this. The general idea of town warfare is this right now. Enemy come in , defenders barricade the exits with cobblestone. You cannot blow this up or anything , then they mass hit you until your Armour is weakened from them respawning and insta - hitting and the cycle repeats.

You are going to be very happy with my current plans for the future.

[Crashlander04]

Hi All.

Without wanting to step out of place or on the toes of Yotto et al, I am concerned about Kiwike continuing, and thought perhaps we should have an open debate about the future. Hopefully, not starting a troll or flame war either.


I think I turned up when the server "reboot" was quite fresh, which I think also happened to coincide with half-term in the UK for the younger people. There were normally always a handful of people on, with peak numbers of around 20.

However, since the opening week, for the last 1.5 weeks kiwike has been a ghost server. At most, I have seen two others on at the same time, but normally when I turn up there is no-one. It's like playing single player! I hang around for some time doing stuff - and I feel like its my own private world.

Clearly, this not sustainable and so I am asking the impertinent question of what's going to happen and / or be done about it.

Firstly, should I continue to invest time mining and building in this world? Or am I clocking up a lot of effort, only for the server to be turned off and the world and my creations lost? Does anyone here feel the server will continue?

Secondly, the question is WHY is the server so empty?

Obviously, diminishing numbers are self perpetuating. When someone logs on to find only 1 other, they log off straight away. This means that numbers do not generally build up during any session, and the place stays deserted.

What attracted me to Kiwike when I stumbled on it was that it was PvP, but with some sensible constraints on griefing, so it was not an anarchy server which would rapidly lead to rage quit. Whilst searching for a server, most seemed to be strictly PvE and no PvP, which begged the question to me - what was the point in playing online? So, KiWike seemed like a fun thing to try.

I was never convinced by the OP 'town' system and the forming of small groups of people - but I was sticking with it to see where it went. However, it seems that others do not know or care about Kiwike, and those that have discovered it do not like it enough to come back to it.

I wonder if the following is informative about where the server is going:
My wife's co-presenter teenage son is a MC addict (and following his school report will be curtailed a bit!). When I directed him towards Kiwike he was dismissive, because it wasn't proper "factions" - and towns as I described them were just too limiting to be of interest. Plus, it was also vanilla, so nothing special there either. So, he continues on other servers.

Perhaps changing features / vanilla-ness of the server should be debated if numbers are to be attracted??

At the moment, Kiwike is supposed to be controlled PvP. And in that regard it has failed atm - as there is never anyone on to talk to, let alone fight / stalk / raid etc.

Thoughts and comments are welcome.

Well you see, it's a long story (which if you really want to see is transcribed fairly well in previous forum posts), that involves many many people leaving based on unfortunate events (myself included) and that do not plan on coming back until these things are fixed, or at all. Kiwike when I played (well in the earlier time of my playing) usually had 10 to 40 people online. Also one thing I can say with confidence, "factions" did not work for Kiwike, they drove it to its current state (worse actually) you missed out on the flame wars and player to player hate fests that occurred before you ever joined. However I hope you decide to stick with it and that you enjoy your time on the server.

Dont start this..

I didn't, so don't mention it. :\

Can I start it? I haven't had a good flame war in a while now.

[bvcxzmn]

Hi All.

Without wanting to step out of place or on the toes of Yotto et al, I am concerned about Kiwike continuing, and thought perhaps we should have an open debate about the future. Hopefully, not starting a troll or flame war either.


I think I turned up when the server "reboot" was quite fresh, which I think also happened to coincide with half-term in the UK for the younger people. There were normally always a handful of people on, with peak numbers of around 20.

However, since the opening week, for the last 1.5 weeks kiwike has been a ghost server. At most, I have seen two others on at the same time, but normally when I turn up there is no-one. It's like playing single player! I hang around for some time doing stuff - and I feel like its my own private world.

Clearly, this not sustainable and so I am asking the impertinent question of what's going to happen and / or be done about it.

Firstly, should I continue to invest time mining and building in this world? Or am I clocking up a lot of effort, only for the server to be turned off and the world and my creations lost? Does anyone here feel the server will continue?

Secondly, the question is WHY is the server so empty?

Obviously, diminishing numbers are self perpetuating. When someone logs on to find only 1 other, they log off straight away. This means that numbers do not generally build up during any session, and the place stays deserted.

What attracted me to Kiwike when I stumbled on it was that it was PvP, but with some sensible constraints on griefing, so it was not an anarchy server which would rapidly lead to rage quit. Whilst searching for a server, most seemed to be strictly PvE and no PvP, which begged the question to me - what was the point in playing online? So, KiWike seemed like a fun thing to try.

I was never convinced by the OP 'town' system and the forming of small groups of people - but I was sticking with it to see where it went. However, it seems that others do not know or care about Kiwike, and those that have discovered it do not like it enough to come back to it.

I wonder if the following is informative about where the server is going:
My wife's co-presenter teenage son is a MC addict (and following his school report will be curtailed a bit!). When I directed him towards Kiwike he was dismissive, because it wasn't proper "factions" - and towns as I described them were just too limiting to be of interest. Plus, it was also vanilla, so nothing special there either. So, he continues on other servers.

Perhaps changing features / vanilla-ness of the server should be debated if numbers are to be attracted??

At the moment, Kiwike is supposed to be controlled PvP. And in that regard it has failed atm - as there is never anyone on to talk to, let alone fight / stalk / raid etc.

Thoughts and comments are welcome.

Well you see, it's a long story (which if you really want to see is transcribed fairly well in previous forum posts), that involves many many people leaving based on unfortunate events (myself included) and that do not plan on coming back until these things are fixed, or at all. Kiwike when I played (well in the earlier time of my playing) usually had 10 to 40 people online. Also one thing I can say with confidence, "factions" did not work for Kiwike, they drove it to its current state (worse actually) you missed out on the flame wars and player to player hate fests that occurred before you ever joined. However I hope you decide to stick with it and that you enjoy your time on the server.

Dont start this..

I didn't, so don't mention it. :\

Can I start it? I haven't had a good flame war in a while now.

No.

[Gira]

May we taste from the glass of knowledge Bvc?
(Whatdaya mean.)

[bvcxzmn]

For one, there are going to be several changes with the town system to make that much better. We also have large plans for the economy to make emeralds actually matter. We have many other plans surrounding the warfare on the server, but please be a little patient with this because it is quite complex and complicated at the moment. All of the little, cool things, such as bacon trucks, etc... are just that, little, cool things that we have put on the server. However, you can expect much greater and more awesome things in the future that should settle all of your concerns.

[Crashlander04]

I support bacon trucks, however, everything else shall be a failure.

[NLewis]

For one, there are going to be several changes with the town system to make that much better. We also have large plans for the economy to make emeralds actually matter. We have many other plans surrounding the warfare on the server, but please be a little patient with this because it is quite complex and complicated at the moment. All of the little, cool things, such as bacon trucks, etc... are just that, little, cool things that we have put on the server. However, you can expect much greater and more awesome things in the future that should settle all of your concerns.

This is what we have heard numerous times in the past... there is always something big coming for the server, but it will take some time... but whenever it gets here, no one is interested. We should work on improving the server now, and short term fixes, then work on long term.

[yottabyte]

For one, there are going to be several changes with the town system to make that much better. We also have large plans for the economy to make emeralds actually matter. We have many other plans surrounding the warfare on the server, but please be a little patient with this because it is quite complex and complicated at the moment. All of the little, cool things, such as bacon trucks, etc... are just that, little, cool things that we have put on the server. However, you can expect much greater and more awesome things in the future that should settle all of your concerns.

This is what we have heard numerous times in the past... there is always something big coming for the server, but it will take some time... but whenever it gets here, no one is interested. We should work on improving the server now, and short term fixes, then work on long term.

Agreed.

[sethd13]

Nlewis The short term solution is to get online and play

[iDieForEXP]

Yotta should check the logs, cause I think that whenever I get on, we end up having 5 people