again

[pavja2]

Reason for ban:
"suspected xray"

Same questions - where/when/how/why am I suspected of xray.
To be honest this is getting to be a pain and I'm going to start looking for a new server on which to set up my guild because there is no way a Thieves Guild is going to function on kiwike if Thieves get banned every time they steal something. I'll appeal this one like I've done the last few but if I find a better server I'm probably not going to appeal the next ban because it's honestly not worth the trouble.

[geckosquid]

Just something you'll have to put up with. Anyways, here's the deal:

You dug straight to mine and Cell's hidden chests, and, although nothing was in them because we had since moved out of our base, you dug absolutely no blocks around them or anywhere else in the base. Interesting considering those were the only chests with air pockets around them... And no, they were not hidden in an obvious place, and no, there is no way you saw us going into them. Oh, and you were really sloppy, as you left everything open. There you go.

[squiggley1]

Finding chests like that is just fucking bull, you can't just find them like that. Its like somehow finding someones cache in the middle of nowhere with no logical way of finding it.

[geckosquid]

Squiggley, are we doing good cop bad cop here? XD

[squiggley1]

Squiggley, are we doing good cop bad cop here? XD

I remember when 2 police officers did that to Thornax and I once good times.

[Spammuff]

Finding chests like that is just <Bad Word> bull, you can't just find them like that. Its like somehow finding someones cache in the middle of nowhere with no logical way of finding it.

A FORUM MOD SWEARING!

Dang. Pavja, Squiggley is out to get you now.

[squiggley1]

Finding chests like that is just <Bad Word> bull, you can't just find them like that. Its like somehow finding someones cache in the middle of nowhere with no logical way of finding it.

A FORUM MOD SWEARING!

Dang. Pavja, Squiggley is out to get you now.

I really just use cursing for emphasis, and the fact that I'm 14.
and get back on topic or I'll get the rubber spork.

[Spammuff]

I guess this is on topic...

BAD PAVJA... BAD Y U DO THAT?

But in all seriousness, this sounds like full on x-ray or texture pack misuse (Like the ones, that makes some blocks invisible).
Unless you have a good explanation, It seems like you're probably gonna stay banned.

[pavja2]

Just something you'll have to put up with. Anyways, here's the deal:

You dug straight to mine and Cell's hidden chests, and, although nothing was in them because we had since moved out of our base, you dug absolutely no blocks around them or anywhere else in the base. Interesting considering those were the only chests with air pockets around them... And no, they were not hidden in an obvious place, and no, there is no way you saw us going into them. Oh, and you were really sloppy, as you left everything open. There you go.

Can I have screen shots of where these chests were located, I have no idea whose chests I am looking at.

Also, do moderators usually get to randomly block-check chests from which nothing is stolen, or to see who built what structures if there was no grief. When I was a moderator I was under the impression that I was not allowed to block check anything until after a complaint was made and that I was supposed to ask a different moderator to do the banning if I thought I was greifed/stolen from so that personal bias would not weigh into the decision. Perhaps the rules have changed since then, but if so it's just another reason dealing with these random banning shenanigans is really not worth the trouble anymore.
If this change has not occurred could I request that I have a different moderator review my appeal as you have a personal bias to believe that your chests were hidden well even if they weren't? It's very hard to convince people that they were stupid after they were stupid.

I don't have much to go on here but from the vague and ambiguous charges that have been pressed thus far, the following presents my responses:

1)

You dug straight to mine and Cell's hidden chests

Ignoring the grammar I highly doubt that your chests were hidden very far, were in a location I had not already visited previously or had a concealed entrance. If I dig a few blocks in some direction and find something generally I steal it instead of digging in other places first.

2)

although nothing was in them because we had since moved out of our base

This seems to be a lie - it is impossible to check who opened chests until after something is taken out of them, so either something was in the chest or you are just accusing me of removing blocks in your base.

3)

Interesting considering those were the only chests with air pockets around them

Doesn't imply xray - chests that are in rooms with lots of space are a lot easier to find and access then chests which are buried. Oftentimes chests that are buried are hidden better (because they contain more valuable stuff) and are much harder to find because they are well hidden.

4)

And no, they were not hidden in an obvious place, and no, there is no way you saw us going into them

I can't refute because I have no idea which chests these were, most people don't label chests with their names and then I get accused of stealing not from a particular place but instead from a particular person, the result is that it is very difficult to appeal until I am provided a screen shot. If you do provide one chances are I will remember and be able to explain much more effectively.

5)

Oh, and you were really sloppy, as you left everything open. There you go.

Ad-hom seems to indicate that there is a bit of personal bias playing into this, also irrelevant, if you want to ban me for greifing that is a different discussion I will be more than happy to have.


Hopefully I will receive a prompt response and a bit of clarification on exactly where I found them. Thanks, and hopefully this will be handled with enough professionalism and rationale that I shall have a bit of my diminished faith in kiwike restored.

[Smythie]

I don't think it's a coincidence that you are always getting banned for xraying, clearly there is a reason behind it all. You are xraying.