"VIP plots" and shops: Questions, complaints and suggestions

[The Black Sun]

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[yottabyte]

I'm not really on any side here. I kind of agree that nothing should be 100% protected but I see why people want to protect their stuff. It's not great times when you've been mining diamonds for hours and they are all stolen.

The problem is that while there is awesome theif clans, there are also those who don't like to RP and just steal because it's allowed.

On the topic of shop protection, Kubrick has been working on more detailed rules but since he is AWOL we may have to wait. I can respond to your questions though.

1. Shops should be visible to the public, that's it. If they aren't it's pretty obvious that you are abusing the system. If a thief finds a shop like this they are free to report it to a moderator.
2. Other items can be stored in the shop, this is a flaw with the shop plugin. However, it IS NOT allowed to store other items than what is being sold.
3. If a shop is found abusing the system, it is simply removed from the world permanently. I know it may not be the best solution though. The ban is depending on how serious the crime is but we are generally pretty hard.

[tristo999]

Yes...

[The Black Sun]

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[Cell]

Pavja, Like yotta said this will be sorted out on the rules post. But for now, it's the point of VIP plots, you pay extra for protection.

[RobertF]

Exactly Cell,

Pavja, you only want this so you can send double agents in to everyone's town to rob everyone's stuff. This is one of the reasons I started the VIP pot docks at Cornerstone. With the VIP plots double agents are ineffective, witch I like. If the protections where changed all of the major cities would be robbed clean in no time.......

-Pwolbart

Why shouldn't double agents be allowed on the server? Why should people get 100% security on a server where thieving is allowed. There is literally no difference between your VIP plot and Yotta just downloading a mod that let everyone have locking chests. I am of the opinion that you should know who is in your town and only accept those you can trust. I am faithful in your intelligence and ability to protect your stuff without finding exploits you can manipulate for protection and instead carefully thinking about where and how you store your stuff. I have tons of things (like blocks of diamonds and iron and stacks of tnt and obsidian) that aren't protected by towny or shops, they have yet to be stolen from me because I know how to hide stuff and use my brain instead of cheating with plugins.

TLDR: Double agents are a part if the game, deal with it.

Pavja,

Yes double agents are part of the game, i understand that, I would know I have used them in the past. What you want is for all the cities to be exposed so your little group of "thief's " and "assassins" can prosper by robing every city till it collapses and you can have everyone's goods to yourself.......

Yes, the goal of my guild is to be wealthy and powerful. If your nation of like 40+ individuals can't handle a group of 15 thieves without relying on cheating / gamebreaking exploits that's not my problem.

Pavja,
I respect you, but don't make me lose that for you. Please don't take us as idiots.
1. We all know you want to rob every nation
2. We all know you want dominance through theiving
3. Yeah Cornerstone has 40, you have 15, but you say that like all of Cornerstone (or any other nation) is online 24h a day, 7 days a week. Its just not true, and it is YOU who want to exploit that. I personally am disgusted by the fact that you want to manipulate everything in your (clan's) favor.

[The Black Sun]

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[tristo999]

I am against VIP plots actually.
As a theif in the past it spoils roleplay
ALSO sun has a point.
In the post it says there was no chest protection.
BUT yotta will have problems recoding this
So my appologizes yotta =/.

[The Black Sun]

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[tristo999]

XD...