Southern Coalition - No Raiding Appeal

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Restriction - Southern Coalition, no raiding without a Moderator's permission.

I was just informed about half an hour ago about the Southern Coalition being banned from raiding. I was told one of the main reasons for this is a member of the staff being told that we raided for six hours strait, which, is not true. The most we have ever spent raiding would be three hours, with an hour break in-between which comes out to be two hours. And this was before the group was formed, and was during one of the beginning raids when we searched for hidden chests. If there are more reasons, please, let me know.

Now, for the whole group being banned from raiding without a mod's permission is pretty... strict. I was informed of this nearly 12 hours since my last log on. When I logged off, we just finished a raid on Coras, and I was at my home. This was at about 10am, give or take an hour. I log on at 10pm, after constant physical work at my Mother's, about to be opened, store, and find out that the whole group has been restricted as so. In short, log off free, log on restricted.

Raiding is part of the game, if the other players cannot handle it, fight back. In all my raids that have happened so far on Revamped, not a single one has been defended. Other than the constant fist attacks of a player when they re-spawn, very rarely do they fight back. And it just ends with whining on their side.

If at all possible, I would just like to hear from a moderators, and or admins point of view, not of the affected so we do not get any flaming in here. If anything at its shortest, those that were not involved in the recent raid, should not be affected.

Oh, and excuse my horrible grammar, 12 hours of work can do that to you.

[Ian25]

Remove the ban please.

[skote11]

Would be better if it was changed to all raids must have a mod watching and a fair time limit of an hour and a half? Or something like that =\

[Leech]

We talked of a hard limit, but people don't time their raids. Also, it wasn't exactly "straight." They gave 10 minute breaks to go back to their chests. I try to fight back, but it's hard to get armor when people are constantly here. The raiders that we saw seemed to have the intention of ruining the game experience rather than RPing. Yea, we need to fight back. And I fought back as much as I could. But, I really can't stop people with all this diamond crap from killing me when I'm unarmed. Other than about 220 gold, I am dirt poor, can't afford the iron to make the armor. Not like it would change anything, still have Giratina in full diamond. The RP justification for coming that often was shoddy at best. There's a pretty good reason for this, and I doubt it will be changed

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But you cannot punish those that have not even been apart of what you said above.
I even came to you in-game and apologize for the killings, even payed for your losses. I find no need to kill you if you have no armor, no weapons, or anything of value except for the blocks you are using to build.
In my mind, if I see you on a wall with no armor on, and you are working on enlarging it, I will leave you alone.
In others, they may not do the same, but their RP justification still stands right.

Gecko has not participated in any raids in quite some time, why should he be punished?
I don't participate in raids that are constant. If my fellow raiders left, then came back an hour later, I normally would not be there. I am not in favor of constant raiding.

[Leech]

It's largely seen that it's the group doing it. I know many are still raiding in a fair way, and I understand them. There is a "war" going on. But, there are also those who are constantly raiding. And that should be discouraged. I would say that, if you want to gain this right back, you need to get those people to stop with the constant raids. Also, Cerce just said something that explains what I see the problem as being:

Try to remember that this server is not comprised of members, but of people. People with lives, friends, and feelings. If you want to do something that could very well cause someone to become angry beyond the game, ask them for permission first - I would have been fine with many of the things people have done to me if they just asked me first.

That's what I think they were doing, and this is where the problem lies. I think it's generally known that if you are causing someone actual anger (like in my case, yelling until I started going numb), then you are playing this game wrong

EDIT: Also, some were on the brink of leaving the server. Once again, if that's what you're trying to do, you are playing the game wrong

[andy66252]

Yes but think about it this way. we were trying to make peace with nlewis and his raiding party and even invited them to the tree for food. here they targeted me because i was the only armored person giving absolutely no reason as to why they killed me. they then killed the rest of the town members and started raiding us. this was all approximately 30 seconds after we were talking peace

[Cell]

That is not what i'm trying to do?
Leech, take this for instance.
Someone in your "Town" did not RP when killing another. This person is banned, but your whole town is put on probation, and not allowed to kill another due to this.

This is what is happening in my eyes. Not necessarily to me, but mostly to others like Gecko. He has not participated in any raids in quite some time, why should he be punished?

Edit. Andy, only three people were involved in that raid I believe. The rest of us are being punished?

[Leech]

That is not what i'm trying to do?
Leech, take this for instance.
Someone in your "Town" did not RP when killing another. This person is banned, but your whole town is put on probation, and not allowed to kill another due to this.

This is what is happening in my eyes. Not necessarily to me, but mostly to others like Gecko. He has not participated in any raids in quite some time, why should he be punished?

Edit. Andy, only three people were involved in that raid I believe. The rest of us are being punished?

A) Lewis and Giratina aren't banned
B) I know where you are coming from. Like I said, you should probably get the offending parties to use better justification and raid less often. I understand it's unfair to some, but the staff is going to have separate problems if we target specific people
C) I usually don't kill people, so I don't have an issue with not being allowed to kill people

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I used the first, A, for an example. Not for specifics.

I do not control those people Leech, i'm simple asking that those that were not involved not be punished. If they would like their restriction lifted for what they did, as I have very little information on it, then can reply here.