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Declaration Of War
04-25-2011, 02:37,
Post: #1
Declaration Of War
Hello All,

As the Co-Emperor and Liaison for Cornerstone Empire, we Officially declare war with Helvanthar and Tullius.

We have had no other choice but to retaliate against these great nations due to many factors.

We were attacked many time by the Helvans, and we have decided there is no other option.

Then we were attacked by Members of the Tullius nation, and their men were sent by the leader.

It is now full on war. We will raid and raid and raid until we drop dead!

THIS IS CORNERSTONE!

NLewis
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04-25-2011, 04:24,
Post: #2
RE: Declaration Of War
(04-25-2011, 02:40)Cell Wrote: Not to be a pain in the butt, but those reasons are invalid.

You yourself where banished from Helvan lands when we where at peace, because of your constant raidings.

During this raiding you lost a set of precious diamond armor, which you demanded we make you a new set and return it to you.

Thats why the war started.

Hmmm, NLewis, is this true? I do not believe that we should have an all-out war against all other nations for simple raids. They raid us, we raid them. I just don't think that we should engage in conflict simply because they are returning the favour that we bestowed upon them. War is something meant for extreme enemies, and who are we to engage upon people who are innocent, simply because a few of their members did to us what we did to them?

If we keep kicking a dog, the dog eventually will bite back at you. I do not understand why we get enraged if this metaphorical dog bites back. Sure, yeah raiding's fun, I understand we do it to them, they try to do it to us, but then what is the need for war?

My two cents.
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04-25-2011, 05:18,
Post: #3
RE: Declaration Of War
(04-25-2011, 04:24)RobertF Wrote:
(04-25-2011, 02:40)Cell Wrote: Not to be a pain in the butt, but those reasons are invalid.

You yourself where banished from Helvan lands when we where at peace, because of your constant raidings.

During this raiding you lost a set of precious diamond armor, which you demanded we make you a new set and return it to you.

Thats why the war started.

Hmmm, NLewis, is this true? I do not believe that we should have an all-out war against all other nations for simple raids. They raid us, we raid them. I just don't think that we should engage in conflict simply because they are returning the favour that we bestowed upon them. War is something meant for extreme enemies, and who are we to engage upon people who are innocent, simply because a few of their members did to us what we did to them?

If we keep kicking a dog, the dog eventually will bite back at you. I do not understand why we get enraged if this metaphorical dog bites back. Sure, yeah raiding's fun, I understand we do it to them, they try to do it to us, but then what is the need for war?

My two cents.

Robert,

You do not know the full story.
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04-25-2011, 07:25,
Post: #4
RE: Declaration Of War
Yes, this declaration is wholeheartedly agreed with by Tullius. You attacked our allies.

Love,
Gecko
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04-25-2011, 11:53,
Post: #5
RE: Declaration Of War
(04-25-2011, 05:18)NLewis Wrote: Robert,

You do not know the full story.

Ahh, Robert, Would you like to hear it?

So with Android on vacation, and right after Bludwick fell, Nlewis and Pwol travelled to Bludwick.

They where going to help protect it, but i had two others with me helping protect it, and Nlewis and Pwol where not
on friendly terms with them.

I told them to work it out, or if they have to avoid each other, and during a span of 15 minutes i get about 2-3 messages that Lewis and Pwol are attacking the two others.

Now, The next day, I log on to see this. That Nlewis has killed Fluffeh.

I ask him what is going on, and he simply said revenge. He took all of Fluffeh's items and raided Caldera.

I get Pwol on it, and he said that Nlewis snuck out and it wouldn't happen again.

So the day goes on, and i see that Fluffeh gets killed again, well it turns out Fluffeh didn't like being raided, and went for revenge.

This is followed by another raid by Nlewis on Caldera because "Fluffeh raided him".

So this is when me and Pwol made the pact that Fluffeh stays of Cornerstone lands, and Nlewis stays of Helvan lands or he will die.

Fluffeh gets bored and asked if he could visit Cornerstone, and Villin (A Member of Cornerstone) Said he could come and see his house, etc.

Well Fluffeh gets up their and Dies immediatly because he was to close to Cornerstone, and then (I was offline during all this), another Raid happens.

Nlewis put a stake out for Fluffeh for 5g to whoever helped. So Pwol, Nlewis, And Villin (Not sure if anyone else was there) Come raiding caldera again because Fluffeh "Raided them".

This is the time i am on the break of declaring war, I promise to return all items that where gotten during the battle by us, if they return those, and never come on helvan lands again.

So this happens, Apparently when they raided us, Fluffeh could not hold all the items and they Lost two sets of Diamond armor.

Pwol refused to leave Caldera until he got the two sets back, which Fluffeh told him he did not have.

Then Nlewis messaged me saying this.

"Tell Fluffeh to give back the Two sets of Diamond armor."
"I told you, he doesn't have them, they are gone."
"Then i want you to make me a new set of Diamond armor, and 3 stacks of Arrows, and give them to me."
"No, you lost them because you raided us, not my fault."
"If you do not give me those items, war it is."
"See ya then."

Nlewis declares war in Global Chat.



Whole story.
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04-25-2011, 12:03,
Post: #6
RE: Declaration Of War
If it is war they want it is war it shall be!
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04-25-2011, 12:08, (This post was last modified: 04-25-2011, 12:13 by Reshe.)
Post: #7
RE: Declaration Of War
(04-25-2011, 11:53)Cell Wrote:
(04-25-2011, 05:18)NLewis Wrote: Robert,

You do not know the full story.

Ahh, Robert, Would you like to hear it?

So with Android on vacation, and right after Bludwick fell, Nlewis and Pwol travelled to Bludwick.

They where going to help protect it, but i had two others with me helping protect it, and Nlewis and Pwol where not
on friendly terms with them.

I told them to work it out, or if they have to avoid each other, and during a span of 15 minutes i get about 2-3 messages that Lewis and Pwol are attacking the two others.

Now, The next day, I log on to see this. That Nlewis has killed Fluffeh.

I ask him what is going on, and he simply said revenge. He took all of Fluffeh's items and raided Caldera because they were threatened and insulted and were literally invited to raid the city.

I get Pwol on it, and he said that Nlewis snuck out and it wouldn't happen again.

So the day goes on, and i see that Fluffeh gets killed again, well it turns out Fluffeh didn't like being raided, and went for revenge.

This is followed by another raid by Nlewis on Cencus because we were going to retrieve stolen goods.

So this is when me and Pwol made the pact that Fluffeh stays of Cornerstone lands, and Nlewis stays of Helvan lands or he will die.

Fluffeh gets bored and asked if he could visit Cornerstone, and Villin (A Member of Cornerstone) said he could come and see his house, etc.

Well Fluffeh gets up their and dies immediatly because he had a bounty on his head and was lured there to be killed.

Nlewis put a stake out for Fluffeh for 5g to whoever helped. So Pwol, Nlewis, And Villin (Not sure if anyone else was there) Come raiding caldera again because Fluffeh "Raided them". This entire line is false as he had already been killed and the reward claimed.

This is the time i am on the break of declaring war, I promise to return all items that where gotten during the battle by us, if they return those, and never come on helvan lands again.

So this happens, Apparently when they raided us, Fluffeh could not hold all the items and they Lost two sets of Diamond armor.

Pwol refused to leave Caldera until he got the two sets back, which Fluffeh told him he did not have.

Then Nlewis messaged me saying this.

"Tell Fluffeh to give back the Two sets of Diamond armor."
"I told you, he doesn't have them, they are gone."
"Then i want you to make me a new set of Diamond armor, and 3 stacks of Arrows, and give them to me."
"No, you lost them because you raided us, not my fault."
"If you do not give me those items, war it is."
"See ya then."

Nlewis declares war in Global Chat.



Whole story.

Fixed with what I was preview to though I know there is more in between that I have forgotten.

With regard to Tullius, you wanted to break their neutral stance and so made up an excuse to do so. This is their logic:

Our ally attacked our ally and so we are going to declare war on our ally because we are a neutral nation.

If you guessed that this statement doesn't make sense you're right.

Helv instigated the initial attacks by telling Lewis to attack, which was obliged. If anything, Tullius should be allied with us. But instead, they pull a Pearl Harbor and attack before war is even declared.

Also, raiding a city it an attack on a city which is an act of war. You can't be ok with raids if you are against going to war. Those two are not mutually exclusive except for rare circumstances (like attacking Cencus to retrieve the goods stolen by a former citizen. No one was hurt and theft from other chests in the city was not allowed, nor was anyone to be killed besides Squigle unless it was done so in self defense).
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04-25-2011, 13:55,
Post: #8
RE: Declaration Of War
Our logic is perfectly sound. One of our allies wronged the other, so we decided to side with the one who was in the right. The reason we sided with Helvanthar was because Cornerstone camped NoSaka, which isn't right.

Love,
Gecko
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04-25-2011, 14:12,
Post: #9
RE: Declaration Of War
Thankyou Gecko. see, nlewis , you have no hope now, You are warring 2 nations. Prepare to die
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04-25-2011, 14:42,
Post: #10
RE: Declaration Of War
Just some shots of some memorable times.

At Tullius, Getting ready for raid, got a whole bunch of loot. Thanks partyars!

[Image: 2011-04-24_224920.png]

Us at Nosaka, ready to kill the acting chief of Helvanthar, once again, nice diamond armour.

[Image: 2011-04-24_190449.png]

NLewis
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