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08-29-2011, 08:19, (This post was last modified: 08-29-2011, 08:26 by TehCthulhu.)
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RE: Religion
I know most of this has already been touched on, however I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents.

(08-29-2011, 04:27)Cerce Wrote: Firstly: Agnostic, atheist, or simply having no religion is 15% of America's population as opposed to 76% being Catholic or Protestant allone - not counting other Christian sects. As a result, laws will be passed in favor of the majority.

I realize we are not the majority, however it is strange that we have almost no representation, despite being the 2nd largest group, bigger than all smaller groups combined, all of which have serving members of congress or special interest groups.

(08-29-2011, 04:27)Cerce Wrote: Seccondly: We do not 'push our religion on America'. America takes a pat on the back and some prayers to spur them on as molestation and verbal assault. I still don't understand what is so wrong about voting to save lives, or voting against the joining of two peoples that, according to Science, makes them in essence, walking dead.

The Scientific Requirements for Life are as fallows, if you want a non-religious point of view:
1) made of 1 or more cells
2) contain DNA as genetic material
3) respond to stimuli
4) metabolize
5) reproduce- here lies the problem.
6) evolutionary change

Cerce, I believe this reasoning is meant to be applied to a species and not an individual, a single person cannot exhibit evolutionary change, they are limited to a single generation.
Your logic would also preclude sterile and/or paralyzed individuals from being able to marry and one might go so far as to say that this would also force a married couple to divorce if one of them became unable to reproduce before they had children.

(08-29-2011, 04:27)Cerce Wrote: Homosexuality is an outright defilement of what God intended to be pure, loving, and special. Today's society has turned what was once an act of pure love, an act between one man and one woman that were deaply in love, into a thing to have fun with. It's now a game, a source of pleasure, something to flaunt. It is no longer special or loving in today's world. I have fought, will fight, and continue fighting to back God in all things.

All these ideas come from what your idea of God is. I'm not saying your idea of God is wrong, only that your idea of God does not work for everyone, otherwise the entire world would be Pentecostal.
The fact of the matter is that if gay people choose to make love to one another or want to be married, nobody is being harmed by these actions. If these gay people have to face some manner of divine judgement then they will be the only ones disenfranchised by their actions.

Maybe it is just me, but I have never been able to understand why some victim-less actions are illegal. If we are forced to criminalize anything that offends someone's moral standards, regardless of whether or not they harm anyone, before long we will all be gunless vegans in government-approved clothing serving jail terms for swearing in front of children.
There is no reason two consenting adults shouldn't be allowed to do whatever they want to each other behind closed doors. There is no reason two people who love each other shouldn't be allowed to live together with all the same rights and privileges as their neighbors.
There is no reason someone shouldn't be able to make a wager on the outcome of an event. There is no reason I should not be able to ingest any chemicals I want, so long as I do it in a safe environment in a responsible manner. There is no reason a consenting woman should not be able to preform sexual acts in exchange for money if she does so in a safe and responsible way.

The fact is that most of these things I mention above are booming industries, despite the fact they are illegal. Their illegality creates far more problems than it solves, they are not regulated and if someone within one of these trades is being victimized, there is no place for them to turn for immediate help. When drugs are sold their profits are almost guaranteed to go to a crime lord in another country, imagine if they went to a job-creating industry and it could be taxed to increase national revenue.

I know I've gotten horribly off topic here, but I'm just trying to illustrate why I don't agree with there being laws in place that limit people's choices only because their actions could violate someone's moral code. I'm not asking for anarchy, just that those activities deemed criminal be limited to those actions that directly cause suffering to something besides the executor of the action.

TLDR: I guess I'm kinda a libertarian? Also: don't legislate religious morality. Also also: hooray for moral nihilism.
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Messages In This Thread
Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-28-2011, 22:32
RE: Religion - by Sir Prize - 08-28-2011, 22:54
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-28-2011, 23:10
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-28-2011, 22:56
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-28-2011, 23:20
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-28-2011, 22:56
RE: Religion - by Sir Prize - 08-28-2011, 23:13
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-28-2011, 23:16
RE: Religion - by SirSuba - 08-29-2011, 01:38
RE: Religion - by Android - 08-29-2011, 01:54
RE: Religion - by squiggley1 - 08-29-2011, 02:09
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 02:20
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-29-2011, 02:30
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 02:51
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-29-2011, 09:06
RE: Religion - by SirSuba - 08-29-2011, 02:58
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-29-2011, 03:19
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 04:27
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-29-2011, 08:19
RE: Religion - by bowser956 - 08-29-2011, 04:08
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-29-2011, 04:36
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 05:10
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 05:10
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 08-29-2011, 05:36
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 05:38
RE: Religion - by Solion - 08-29-2011, 06:14
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 08-29-2011, 23:28
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-29-2011, 23:50
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 08-29-2011, 23:54
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-30-2011, 00:12
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-30-2011, 02:19
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 06:42
RE: Religion - by Solion - 08-29-2011, 06:46
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-29-2011, 06:55
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-29-2011, 07:14
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-29-2011, 08:22
RE: Religion - by coilicDamage - 08-29-2011, 09:20
RE: Religion - by Crazylol5 - 08-29-2011, 10:01
RE: Religion - by yottabyte - 08-29-2011, 10:05
RE: Religion - by Crazylol5 - 08-29-2011, 10:26
RE: Religion - by MainDigger - 08-29-2011, 11:09
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-29-2011, 11:15
RE: Religion - by Crazylol5 - 08-29-2011, 11:15
RE: Religion - by Naamandre3 - 08-29-2011, 11:29
RE: Religion - by sethd13 - 08-29-2011, 21:25
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-30-2011, 02:29
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-30-2011, 05:06
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-30-2011, 06:05
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 08-31-2011, 23:29
RE: Religion - by squiggley1 - 08-30-2011, 05:12
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-30-2011, 06:47
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-30-2011, 08:37
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-30-2011, 06:51
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-30-2011, 06:54
RE: Religion - by Vikas - 08-30-2011, 08:23
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 08-30-2011, 18:14
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-30-2011, 18:41
RE: Religion - by SirSuba - 08-30-2011, 18:41
RE: Religion - by sethd13 - 08-30-2011, 20:11
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 08-31-2011, 07:29
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 08-31-2011, 22:48
RE: Religion - by Sir Prize - 08-30-2011, 20:23
RE: Religion - by squiggley1 - 09-01-2011, 00:14
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 09-01-2011, 03:05
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 09-01-2011, 05:27
RE: Religion - by Boruma - 09-01-2011, 05:47
RE: Religion - by TehCthulhu - 09-01-2011, 09:10
RE: Religion - by andy66252 - 09-01-2011, 02:47
RE: Religion - by Cerce - 09-01-2011, 02:58
RE: Religion - by geckosquid - 09-01-2011, 05:07

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