Aggresive griefing in eywind lands

[Alebon]

I feel like the ban should be temporary, and the rules pertaining to spawn-killing and the use of flame-based weapons should be written or re-written. If what Infarei said was true, and the Vikings did use fire themselves, and in addition to that, they used it first, then, not to prod anyone here, I feel like the main reason that bans were handed out might have been because one group of people may have used lava better than another group of people, and in a location which has already endured a beating, leaving residents to be susceptible to (deserved) frustration. But hey, I wasn't there.

That's not to say I don't believe griefing took place, and that rules should be ignored, and discipline should become nonexistent, but with a simple apology for causing such extensive damage to the Viking nation's capitol (I think capitol?), the bans should be lifted after a period of time deemed fit by more than one moderator, with the understanding that if such extensive damage happens again, punishment will be much more severe.

In addition to that, it should be noted that SirSuba never once said the afore mentioned solution couldn't or wouldn't happen. I am simply pointing out that it's a thought which may not have crossed any of the banned player's minds.

As for the weekend wartime ordeal, I believe if it's not stated in the official rules that this is the only time a raid of this magnitude may be carried out, then it shouldn't be so until an amendment is made, but I'm short on time and haven't actually re-read that segment of the rules, and I'm only going off what Infarei said.

I'd also really love to say that the screenshots really don't constitute "flooding" which was a term thrown around a lot when referring to the lava, and that TNT cannons have the potential to do a hell of a lot more damage than lighting grass on fire.

Lastly, I feel as though tuxman's forum etiquette could use some serious refurbishing, and I also believe a kick followed by a "do not come back on until we settle this" or a ban with a "for NOW it's only temporary" may stir up less trouble in the future. But hey, I'm not a mod, and I'm quite positive the mods here have far more experience on the matter than I.

But seriously, before I go, I would like to reiterate that certain individuals' forum etiquette could use some polishing. Talking like that is just begging for a counterattack. Some would call it flaming...

Love and peace, bros. Love and peace.

[Cerce]

^this

[Kubrickb]

The Rules of this server need to be set out in plan English and easy to understand. They need to be sticked above all other forums! I have said this a shit-ton of times. In order for this stuff to be prevented and people to understand they need to be easily accessible. They are not. If the rules would be posted, we could ban people and they would have little to no argument. Until this is done we are going to be dealing with this shit EVERY DAY!!!!

WRITE RULES IN CLEAR MANNER
GET THE RULES POSTED IN ONE AREA
STICKY THEM TO THE TOP
KICK/BAN PLAYERS THAT VIOLATE THE RULES
IF THEY WANT BACK IN MAKE THEM SIGN THE RULES SECTION (With # Days Suspension)
VIOLATE AGAIN = PERM-BAN FROM SERVER AND FORUMS.

[Ragezors]

My house .
I always knew ZupZup was a bitch.

[Reshe]

It was my assumption that during a declared period of war, nations could attack each other's cities at any point, regardless of weekend or weekday. Being that I'm an objective and neutral party, it only goes to show that the rules ARE confusing and need a rewrite. Sure, temp ban for the overly destructive nature of the attack (some destruction WILL happen, otherwise how are you suppose to find hidden valuables?) but I think that should be all. Just my 2 cents.

[Cell]

Heres how it Works for all the Don't know.
During the weekends we have Wartime weekend, when you are to grief as much as you like, but other than that, you are not allowed to.
The Vikings and the Nation of Helvanthar violated the Rules.
Helvanthar During the Raid, And the Vikings Twice before during the (Weekend that Was not Wartime).
Helvanthar, Gets Members Banned, Vikings, Get None Banned.
I Get "Witnesses is Not Enough".
We Get Griefed, So in return for them not having a ban, We Retalliate. I myself was not in a raid, nor do i say this is the best idea, but its what happened.
Something should be done about the mods that belong to Nations.
Not that you should demote them, as they are good at what they do.
But rather set some rules to what they can ban.
So We don't Suba banning just the Nation of Helvanthar, And Cerce, Etc.
Or Android banning every viking.

[Unreal22]

My house was grifed on monday and that is allowed?
Could someone explain it to me? pls?

[Cell]

No, Griefing is not allowed Except for Wartime Weekends.
If it was griefed and you have the Name of the person you can report.

[Cerce]

I think this is getting way out of proportion with us commonners talking smack. I say we get Yotta in here to resolve the matter, or a non-biased mod. And Every mod belongs to a nation (TheCreator belongs to Cerantia, Android and nsanderx belong to Helvanthar, Suba to Vikings, not sure bout douweh though)... so I think yottabyte needs to get in here and tell us what should be done.

[Kubrickb]

*coughs* Petitions to become a mod *cough*