Religion

[Boruma]

But if you do that, Boruma, you die continuously, and it never stops. No, I'm not talking about multiple deaths over and over again. It's one everlasting death. Do you really want to live carefree, only to find out that in doing so, you have condemned yourself to eternal death?

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But if you do that, Boruma, you die continuously, and it never stops. No, I'm not talking about multiple deaths over and over again. It's one everlasting death. Do you really want to live carefree, only to find out that in doing so, you have condemned yourself to eternal death?

i assume you are speaking of the christian god.
if, and let me enfisize the if, god can see into the hearts of men, who (god) will surely know that most people, athiests being the ones to whom i'm referring, can not, not 'don't want to' but can not without proof believe, god has not given them the gift of faith BUT, that being said, the burden of proof relies on religion, and without proof, those who need it to believe will not.

further more, if god is merciful, he will understand that those who cannot, will not.
God will forgive those who can't believe in him, and if he dosn't forgive, then he's not much of a god to worship.
Me being nihilistic, as far as i know, i could be in a coma, it's inception every day for me, so i could care less about anything. and yes, i'm willing to take the risk of not worshiping, cause like i said ealier, if he's the god people worship, he will forgive, for he is the wisest of all, but if he dosn't forgive because someone cannot honestly believe in a god, then i'd rather be in hell.

ask yourself, do you think an athiest would not bow down to god if he showed up one day?
ofcourse he would, it's not he dosn't want to believe, he can't without proof, and yes i understand that most athiests are stupid neckbeards who can't differ wisdom from intelligence, and i apologize on behalf of those, but because you are a believer, and know in your heart, isn't it enough to live your life care free? and let everyone else choose their own paths and live care free also?

[yottabyte]

and yes i understand that most athiests are stupid neckbeards who can't differ wisdom from intelligence, and i apologize on behalf of those

Elaborate, please?

[Boruma]

and yes i understand that most athiests are stupid neckbeards who can't differ wisdom from intelligence, and i apologize on behalf of those

Elaborate, please?

those severe cases of people who are blatant about them being athiest, flaunt it, and look down upon creationists because they believe religion is stupid.
also, the term neckbeard is used cause most of the time, those cases live in their mother's basement, and have... a neck beard.

[yottabyte]

and yes i understand that most athiests are stupid neckbeards who can't differ wisdom from intelligence, and i apologize on behalf of those

Elaborate, please?

those severe cases of people who are blatant about them being athiest, flaunt it, and look down upon creationists because they believe religion is stupid.
also, the term neckbeard is used cause most of the time, those cases live in their mother's basement, and have... a neck beard.

I guess those are the people that stick out the most, but obviously not everyone are like that.
I know a lot of atheists who just aren't interested in religion at all.

[TehCthulhu]

I guess those are the people that stick out the most, but obviously not everyone are like that.
I know a lot of atheists who just aren't interested in religion at all.

Sadly people seem to use tips of the bell curve to represent the rest it. I.e. fire and brimstone preachers for Christianity and subterranean neck-beards for atheists.

There was a time when I called myself a secular humanist to avoid being associated with the likes of Richard Dawkins. I had to stop because I got sick of explaining was a secular humanist was to people. And if you really want to get technical about it and stand from a point of only empiricism, there is no proof either way, and the only real stance a rational person could have is that of agnosticism.

Lately I've been saying "agnostic in theory, atheist in practice".

[geckosquid]

Hey, that perfectly describes me. I think I'll use that

[Cerce]

Allright, allright...

I was raised in a Christian family. I have been cured of asthma - no it isn't dormant. My aunt has been cured of cancer. My mother has written two songs that she sang in a dream. My father was able to quit smoking because of God. My grandparents on both sides are very, very Christian and have looked at the various ways of looking at God. I'm sure you guys would love my Grandpa, he's all about facts. My Grandma, however, is very spirit-filled, and will bless you so hard you won't be able to refute His presence. I've seen it done - I'm not joking. A friend of mine has had ulcers litterally dissapear. My Father, while in the army, was training with the rest of the guys, and when he tried to fire, his gun jammed. He rode back to the base where he would be getting it fixed, and rested his helmet on the tip of his gun to get some rest. When he gave the gun to the guy who was supposed to fix it, it shot off. After it left Dad's hand. Money has appeared out of nowhere for us in our bank account when my father was laid off. You cannot tell me that these are all random acts of fate, or scientifically explainable, or just luck or chance. The proof is in the acts.

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And, Boruma, a Christian cannot live carefree. Because we care for those that do.

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And, Boruma, a Christian cannot live carefree. Because we care for those that do.

[squiggley1]

My family has had tons of ups and downs but somehow we've always made it through, when my dad was at deaths doors and needed a heart transplant everyone in my church donated and a match to my dads heart just some how popped up. On numerous occasions i have asked for help and guidance and I've always gotten it one way or another. Things just always seemed to turn out alright for my family and we owe it to god we believe. We don't have everything but we're happy

[TehCthulhu]

Allright, allright...

I was raised in a Christian family. I have been cured of asthma - no it isn't dormant. My aunt has been cured of cancer. My mother has written two songs that she sang in a dream. My father was able to quit smoking because of God. My grandparents on both sides are very, very Christian and have looked at the various ways of looking at God. I'm sure you guys would love my Grandpa, he's all about facts. My Grandma, however, is very spirit-filled, and will bless you so hard you won't be able to refute His presence. I've seen it done - I'm not joking. A friend of mine has had ulcers litterally dissapear. My Father, while in the army, was training with the rest of the guys, and when he tried to fire, his gun jammed. He rode back to the base where he would be getting it fixed, and rested his helmet on the tip of his gun to get some rest. When he gave the gun to the guy who was supposed to fix it, it shot off. After it left Dad's hand. Money has appeared out of nowhere for us in our bank account when my father was laid off. You cannot tell me that these are all random acts of fate, or scientifically explainable, or just luck or chance. The proof is in the acts.

You were born with asthma. Your aunt developed cancer. Your father started smoking. Your friend developed ulcers. Your father was in the army because mankind need forces to blow each other to smithereens in case of a major disagreement. Your father was laid off.

It seems like whenever something bad happens to you or your family, it's because that's the was things turned out, but when something good happened it is because God does it. Did God cause all these problems or can he simply not prevent them? Is it that he lets them happen to people so he can impress them by fixing their ailments?

I also had asthma that went away when I got older because asthma does that all the time. My mom grew up as a little girl with a fan pointed at her face so she could breathe at nigh and by college she could do a 6 minute mile. Why does asthma go away more than ALS or Alzheimer's? Is God not at good as curing those or does he think asthma is worse? I'm not trying to be a cynical asshole here, I'm just wondering how you explain evil in the world if there is an omnipotent God controlling it.

[Cerce]

I was born with asthma because my father smoked when I was not yet born. My father smoked because of him wanting to impress his friends in the army. He was in the army because people enlisted him. They enlisted him because they needed people to kill other people. It all goes back to sin. It isn't fair, but for life to be fair, we would all be mindless puppets without free will. And tell me something: how many Alzheimers cases are there proportionate to population? Then look at asthma. Also, there is more to it than simply healing someone because they are sick. He doesn't come unless asked. If you are wondering why someone wasn't healed ask yourself : Did anyone bother praying for them? Would they be better off if they were healed? Would they have loved God even if he didn't heal them?

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And God doesn't control. We don't want him to, and He loves us too much to take what isn't given as a gift of love. So many things happened because we don't give it all, the good and the bad, to Him.