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Alphonse · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 04:36 by Alphonse.)

So.. Tristos999, Nara, and Robert, allong with zupzup have griefed us [not for loot or any items just to be total asshats] Took TNT to our courtyard, blew our walls to hell, and one of them have exploited the invisible glitch that happened sometimes after a teleport to raid us AGAIN.

Now, Sirsuba is creating a little house not ten spaces away from our castle for these people to live in.

Now. I think myself and my twin brother are in full bloody rights to burn their house down and scatter the ashes, because they are a LITERAL threat to us.

But I'm making this post because sirsuba is a mod and I'm not sure if mods are bound by the same bloody rules as the rest of us.

also for Robert7
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Leggerrr · 02-21-2011, 05:34,

Well raiding and whatnot are acceptable, but something like that is totally not. If there was no gain in it, I think its super ridiculous. If Mods are gonna let something pass like that, I think you should have the ability to grief back right at them.

I think mods need to get stricter on the griefing rules, or at least define more rules for griefing. From my understanding, anything like this in the past would not be taken lightly.

tristo999 · 02-21-2011, 06:01,

(02-21-2011, 05:34)Leggerrr Wrote: Well raiding and whatnot are acceptable, but something like that is totally not. If there was no gain in it, I think its super ridiculous. If Mods are gonna let something pass like that, I think you should have the ability to grief back right at them.

I think mods need to get stricter on the griefing rules, or at least define more rules for griefing. From my understanding, anything like this in the past would not be taken lightly.

NOT whole story. WE fought back becasue we were raided and had MANY MANY diamonds stolen including gold iron and chests of stuff.
Everytime we would go to fight they would log out. just to hide and not get our stuff stolen back.
We were then authroized be a mod for the use of tnt to convince then to get our stuff back. Still just cussing us out and telling us to leave while they dance around in our armour with our tools.
I also belive this is a major roleplay factor with the midevil attacking theme. Dont like being attacked? go ahead and find a creative server.
Also. not a good idea to be attacking a mod in the forums...

Alphonse · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 06:43 by Alphonse.)

Tristo.

Natain.. and myself.. never stole..a wooden stick from anyone at bamboo. We haven't stolen from anyone period. What on gods green earth makes you think we stole jack from you EVER? Going to fight and we log out? We haven't stopped once when you enter our base. It wasn't until recently that we could STOP you and zup from coming in, when we found your /home set point. And we didn't log out to avoid you because you would just plop down a lava bucket and leave.

All of the diamonds iron and gold we had for a short time was taken from the mine shaft at 888, 454. We strip mined for HOURS to get it all then graft and deathcow make off with equal shares. Graft then gave the ten diamonds he took from us and told the whole server about it. Which is where you,with your grubby little fingers, wanted to get for yourself so you make up a tale about how we took everything. in fact you fabricated quite a bit about MANY people who you thought you saw on the horizon after someone took from your chest. [should probably look at your raiding buddy, zup, again.

I'm sorry it sounds to me like sirsuba is using his mod abilities to help out his own private group of raiders. He says he wont go off of just our word to ban someone being an ass hat without proof but he gives you the right to blow us to hell because you THINK we took your stuff?

You are right there is a major roleplay factor here. But you aren't role playing. You teleport out of combat, you dump lava all over the place, you lawl and try again later and lie to your friends to get something more for yourself. When we are raided for a week nonstop it stops being roleplay.

The Closest this entire thing came to roleplay was when Robert got a bunch of random people together to attack the castle without using your fucking home point. We stocked up arrows, food and supplies and spread our attention out over the land with every inch of the castle prepared for an attack. Which started by the way because we told him to get the HELL out of our base with his diamond sword and iron armor out all the time. AND LAVA BUCKETS let us not forget. We didn't even attack him, just told him to leave and he got all butt hurt about it.

tristo999 · 02-21-2011, 06:27,

(02-21-2011, 06:23)Alphonse Wrote:
(02-21-2011, 06:01)tristo999 Wrote:
(02-21-2011, 05:34)Leggerrr Wrote: Well raiding and whatnot are acceptable, but something like that is totally not. If there was no gain in it, I think its super ridiculous. If Mods are gonna let something pass like that, I think you should have the ability to grief back right at them.

I think mods need to get stricter on the griefing rules, or at least define more rules for griefing. From my understanding, anything like this in the past would not be taken lightly.

NOT whole story. WE fought back becasue we were raided and had MANY MANY diamonds stolen including gold iron and chests of stuff.
Everytime we would go to fight they would log out. just to hide and not get our stuff stolen back.
We were then authroized be a mod for the use of tnt to convince then to get our stuff back. Still just cussing us out and telling us to leave while they dance around in our armour with our tools.
I also belive this is a major roleplay factor with the midevil attacking theme. Dont like being attacked? go ahead and find a creative server.
Also. not a good idea to be attacking a mod in the forums...

Tristo.. Natain.. and myself.. never stole..a wooden stick from anyone at bamboo. We haven't stolen from anyone period. What on gods green earth makes you think we stole jack from you EVER?

i was at my house multiple times afk. i come back dead. i teleport see what killed me and natain is standing there. looks at me. and tps away. you know what all i lost to you? ive told natain wed leave multiple times if he gave it back. and guess what he just said fuck of multiple times. so we stayed. and we tryed to get it back

SirSuba · 02-21-2011, 06:37,

What did i do wrong exactly? I built a cabin which you guys said i could build, and then invited one person to live there. Way to completely blow this out of proportions. Its actually about 40 spaces away and completely peaceful. I have done nothing to you, and i have tryed to help you in every way i can. And whats all this about the rules? I have never griefed on this current map, and the only stealing i did was to get someones items back. So please stop starting things with the wrong people.

Alphonse · 02-21-2011, 07:15,

You authorized them to use TNT or was that some OTHER mod? Never said you stole jack. But we said YOU could make something. But with Robert7 and nara and your entire clan it turned into a stageing point, not a home.

You know the differences.

Natain · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 07:41 by Natain.)

Yes I went to your house and killed you because the day before you spent an hour lolling and laughing while dumping lava on my home point and demanding the location of grafts home. I have never stolen anything, I attacked you because you were stupid enough to go afk while forgetting the fact that you have pissed off the nearby castle.

We havent instigated anything, never, not once, nothing. We invited zupzup, we invite robert, we invited YOU to the castle and everything was fine, untill Zupzup, you and gecko turn up to raid us and steal, which I happened to log in the middle of. I never did shit to you people so why the hell do you get off saying that you are acting upon prior actions. If I killed you, it was all after, -AFTER- you raided our castle and greifed me multiple times and now you are freaking whineing because I turned the tables on you and you want your diamond sword back. Suck it.

And if this god damn raiding continues, I will broadcast the cords of your home bases to every single raider on the server, every griefer, I will turn your dman minecraft into a night mare. Stop srewing with us

And I seriously suspect Sirsuba of being a corrupt mod =.= He is working with these people to grief our place, they dont have the right to tnt our place, place lava, gank us all fucking week. Mostly, its the TNT because I know when I try that shit, some mod is going to nban be because these idiots go crying to their pet mod. He didnt 'approve' it, he tried to stop them apparently, weidling a stick. I dont know why you people think its so god damin funny to make a joke out of us but I am not going to sit back and watch this keep going.

Alphonse · (This post was last modified: 02-21-2011, 08:22 by Alphonse.)

"So please stop starting things with the wrong people."

Not starting something.

I'm pointing it out the way it looks from my point of view. Does that earn me a perma bann? Well slap me silly, I guess if anyone brings up something bad or fishy going on about a mod they just get knocked off the server and the same stuff keeps going on.

Who the hell is the RIGHT people to start this up with? You are the one heading a clan of every single raider who has given us a raging headache from day one on this server. Let me be more clear.

You will not condemn zup for raiding us non stop for a week destroying our items and stores and dumping lava without screenshots of the acts.

By the time I'm able to get a screenshot I'm already dead and I could be dead from any number of sources.

Yet Tristo says "We were then authroized be a mod for the use of tnt to convince then to get our stuff back." Since when is this allowed? and you didn't have a screenshot, no evidence that we stole from them just his word alone but that is enough to bend the rules? Though if stealing is a perfect excuse to use tnt to 'persuade' them to give it all back? Then when I read

"Don't just tear down a random house and or blow it up with TNT. This stuff will get you banned. "

It isn't exactly true? Because tristo and company are still around.

That is where I am coming from. That is why me and natain think you are corrupted. If you aren't then perhaps there are reasonable explanations for everything that has been happening.

((Quick heads up for anyone who has noticed. We are complaining about Grieving and raiding and such alot. I mean ALOT alot. But the reason for that is because that is ALL WE HAVE SEEN ON THIS SERVER. While raiding may be allowed this has gone up one more leve. We are just two people being attacked constantly by everyone who wants a bit of grafts treasure. We can't find anyone who wants to join us because they dont want to be the target of these bastards attacks and have to run back every bloody time. THIS RAIDING ISN'T ROLEPLAY OR FUN OR ACCEPTABLE. IT IS RUINING THE GAME FOR TWO INNOCENT PLAYERS.))

Android · 02-21-2011, 11:21,

To be frank, this really is all about Graft's treasure mixed with greed. I can also assure you that TNT will never be officially authorized as a means of destroying with no gain. Maybe the only way we can settle this is a war between both sides, approved by the admin and of course both sides would need to agree.