Non-rp killing - broader rules clarification and discussion requested

[Smythie]

So you're saying that giratina should be banned because he is too good at PvP, even though he wants to rp now... Faith in humanity, gone.

Just because a convicted murderer says he'll be a good boy and become a gardener or something doesn't mean that he should be released from prison. Nice try though.

Convicted murderer? wtf.

It's just an example.

And a bad one at that. Giratina is not anywhere close to a convicted murderer, maybe a self-taught professional but he wants to rp and thats what strikes me as awfull. He wants rp but you wont let him.

No my example was that giratina is banned= murderer in jail. He "wants to rp" = Murderer says he will be good. It doesn't mean we let the convicted murderer out of jail because of what he will do. That's what the example was. Way to comprehend

[Ian25]

Just because a convicted murderer says he'll be a good boy and become a gardener or something doesn't mean that he should be released from prison. Nice try though.

Convicted murderer? wtf.

It's just an example.

And a bad one at that. Giratina is not anywhere close to a convicted murderer, maybe a self-taught professional but he wants to rp and thats what strikes me as awfull. He wants rp but you wont let him.

No my example was that giratina is banned= murderer in jail. He "wants to rp" = Murderer says he will be good. It doesn't mean we let the convicted murderer out of jail because of what he will do. That's what the example was. Way to comprehend

I understand what you were saying but I'm saying that it's not like that. Way to comprehend

[Cerce]

Seriously, what's the worst that can happen if we unban Giratina? We re-ban him. Simple.

[Leech]

Giratina's had his second chance.

Ban Continued rule breaking and ruining player experience geckosquid 05 May 2012 15:05:08 Never
Warn More metagaming server 04 May 2012 21:05:09 Never
Warn Metagaming server 04 May 2012 17:05:21 Never
Ban Raiding without Mods permission Saera 01 May 2012 16:05:49 04 May 2012 16:05:49
Warn Logging on, Killing me, and logging off right after tristo999 30 Apr 2012 18:04:46 Never
Warn Stop flaming. geckosquid 28 Apr 2012 21:04:54 Never
Ban Griefing window yottabyte 24 Apr 2012 18:04:01 24 Apr 2012 22:04:01
Warn Metagaming yottabyte 08 Apr 2012 16:04:22 Never

5 warns and 3 bans makes this more than a second chance.

[oranges44]

So wait wait , You're saying I should remain banned forever? It's super evident that I will be unbanned in the near future , Like it or not. But the even more aggravating post here is about the convicted murder thing. Smythie , do you fail to realise this is minecraft? To top that off ASDF was unbanned. For something in my opinion , is much worse than anything I have ever done.
So please , before you go around talking complete rubbish consider what you're saying.

To add , half the warnings were a mistake. As of the Tristo warning. My Internet shut down for a day , I was unable to do anything. And for the window ban I weren't even on to recieve it. So I consider that a warning.

Last but not least , Even the admins and mods admitted the main reason for it all were my raids. "That ruined player experience" All the rest are just minor reasons which dont matter.

[Leech]

So wait wait , You're saying I should remain banned forever? It's super evident that I will be unbanned in the near future , Like it or not. But the even more aggravating post here is about the convicted murder thing. Smythie , do you fail to realise this is minecraft? To top that off ASDF was unbanned. For something in my opinion , is much worse than anything I have ever done.
So please , before you go around talking complete rubbish consider what you're saying.

That is one of the single most cocky and irritating things I've ever read. "It's super evident"? I wouldn't say that begging non-stop = auto-unban. And, Asdf didn't have much of a history, that's a major factor

To add , half the warnings were a mistake. As of the Tristo warning. My Internet shut down for a day , I was unable to do anything. And for the window ban I weren't even on to recieve it. So I consider that a warning.

Last but not least , Even the admins and mods admitted the main reason for it all were my raids. "That ruined player experience" All the rest are just minor reasons which dont matter.

Yea, it did ruin player experience. That was the main reason. But, that first line may have been the most cocky thing I've read. 1 warning you disproved. there are still 4 more, buddy. You metagamed quite a bit. You got 2 metagame warnings in a 5 minute period after you were unbanned Friday. So just keep telling yourself you didn't do anything wrong

[oranges44]

It is evident , because the ban reason isn't that big of a deal to suffice. I noticed that you didn't talk about the asdf unban? please explain

[Leech]

What about it? Asdf got unbanned, he had less of a history and he didn't do it himself, only benefited from it. Also, should we mention you guys are what drove him to do it? You never mentioned Ian was unbanned

[Smythie]

It is evident , because the ban reason isn't that big of a deal to suffice. I noticed that you didn't talk about the asdf unban? please explain

Erm maybe you should learn to read because he did address asdf's unban and also my example was relative you obviously just couldn't understand it.

[oranges44]

That is the most irrational comeback I have ever heard , we drove him to it? (It was only me so stop blaming other people) That's to bad he can't handle one person so much that his whole town have to abuse a glitch which could potentially ruin in game economy? Did I mention that AktrJack sold his diamonds and iron? They risked my player experience by making weapons , armour and tools to risk my items which I got in a perfectly legit manner I might add. That in perspective is much worse than me coming in , taking some wheat and killing you a couple of times. And about Ian , to bad he didn't use it.

To even consider using the glitch to an advantage is unbelievable , Isn't it a main server rule not to exploit glitches like that? The fact that you say he doesn't have a history seems like you're trying to derive from the point. That one thing is worse than all the things I've ever done. Meta or not Meta , I got killed quite an amount of times from that whilst they were using that armour and blocks. Not to mention asdf now stands accused of xray from finding that chest-room late last night.

-Smythie , Then why was ASDF unbanned? You seem to fail to realise that your own argument is invalid. If I used your argument it's like a person robbing from a bank staying in jail for his life., and a man commited of mass murder being set free.

So if you were a logical person you would clearly see that my ban reason isn't just worth the ban. If you unban such people as asdf but keep me banned it's obviously something other than my actual ban reason.